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Old 07-20-2013, 08:21 PM   #1
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F150 and a cougar TT

I am considering upgrading my TT from a Salem cruise lite 30' (aprox 4300 lbs dry weight) to a new keystone cougar 30' 1/2 ton series at about 6300 lbs. I currently have a f150 4x2 with the stock tow package that says I can tow up to 8500. My current trailer tows great, we have about 5-10 camping trips a year. I live in the pacific NW and we have lots of hills and mountains around here. I would like to wait a few years before upgrading truck, and we don't pack very heavy (yet)... But with 2 kids and a dog is this a dumb idea? Should I wait to buy this TT till after I upgrade the truck? Or would you feel pretty safe / confident on towing this trailer with a F150?
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You can tow " UP TO 8500 lbs " if you are alone in the truck and weigh 145lbs. DW, kids and dog plus everything else in your truck take away from the 8500.
Many posts about the accuracy of " Dry Weight " this number can't be trusted. Always look at the trailers GVW when you purchase .
Actual weight of the truck , loaded for travel on a scale, compared to the GCVW and look for a trailer with a GVW less than the difference.
JMHO. Hold off on the trailer till you get a bigger truck, towing over weight can make every trip a nightmare.
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:56 AM   #3
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the closer to this figure the more white knuckles you get... MY TT is rated for 4600 # actual dry # is 2600. it is a 20 footer. truck is 1500 dodge rated at 7500 it pulls very well but would not want to get much closer to that max rate. (loaded truck plus loaded trailer) I have 155K on the truck and will be replacing with a 3/4 ton. incase I want to go bigger on TT or small 5er.
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Old 07-21-2013, 07:48 AM   #4
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We had a Chevy 1500 pulling our Salem 32' last year. Truck should pull 8000. Went to Galveston, thought I was going to burn the transmission up. Had to stop numerous time to let it cool down. Once home, we traded the Chevy for F250 Super Duty, problem solved.
Those posted ratings are for flat or down hill only.
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AS noted...Up to 8500# if properly equipped and you have a stripped base model truck and only a skinny 150# driver and no other cargo. That weight does not even include a hitch.

So weigh your truck as you would normally travel with kids, cargo and pets. Then do some simple math and see what you can really tow.

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IMO max weights & dry weights are salesman's tools. In the real world bigger is better. Years ago I towed an 18' TT with 1/2T and it towed well. When I got a 3/4T I found that it handled the same TT just fine without WDH and or sway bar and the same thing happened when I got the 1T dually towing the 28' TT.`I you ever get in a situation that you need a bigger TV it may be too late.
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Go to the scales , weigh everything
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Thanks for your opinion... Gonna hold off on towing a trailer this size on the f150... Gonna "look" at trucks tomorrow... I've always been a ford guy, is there anything anyone likes about the silverado 2500 or ram 2500?
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Early Duramax engines had injector issues, not sure what year they sorted them out. Dodge you want 03, or newer ( common rail ) Cummins , even better if it's in your price range ; 6spd trans with factory exhaust brake.
Sorry jumped in, thinking you were thinking diesel P/U.
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Thanks for your opinion... Gonna hold off on towing a trailer this size on the f150... Gonna "look" at trucks tomorrow... I've always been a ford guy, is there anything anyone likes about the silverado 2500 or ram 2500?
I am partial to the Cummins. I have had two. A 3/4T and now the 1T Dually.
Talk to John Reginoto (sp?) at Larson in Puyallup. I think he is the sales Mgr.
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It's coming down to the wire between a used cummins 5.9l or 6.7l. I have been reading problems with the 07's and the 6.9l engine... Almost bought one today until the check engine light came on while test driving, was told they need to replace the turbo injectors which they are doing now, then I will have another look (maybe)
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hi

i have an F150. it is a 5.4L engine. i pull a 31ft Laredo trailer wiyh no problems. i will add that due to a flood in the slideouts i had to remove everything in it. i took out the built in table and the heavy sleeper couch as well as the cabinets in the slideouts. I got rid of the huge outdated TV. i remodled and now have a simple desk and a papasan couch. i am very happy with the redo. i have travelled from Arizona to Connecticut with my trailer. i travel alone... i dont have any weight in the truck. hope this helps.
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I just love it when people post that they pull and long trailer with a 1/2 ton truck and they do just fine.....no weights to support how close or over they are. But he does travel alone and has removed a lot of the interior, so it is light.

Personally, 31' is too long for a 1/2 ton truck in my opinion.

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I just love it when people post that they pull and long trailer with a 1/2 ton truck and they do just fine.....no weights to support how close or over they are. But he does travel alone and has removed a lot of the interior, so it is light.

Personally, 31' is too long for a 1/2 ton truck in my opinion.

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The problem with this scenario is when just driving down the road and no wind, nothing jumps out in the road etc every thing is fine. When one of these things happen and the TT takes control they don't believe it was anything they did or didn't do. When I was towing our current TT with a 3/4T I thought everything was fine. I realized a few times that the TT was trying to push in a corner or a hard stop was marginal but after getting the Dually I can see a BIG difference. It's sad that so many think small is enough and new people get the wrong message and the dealers aren't going to tell them. They might loose a sale or just don't know them selves. I had a good friend that was a RV sales manager that was as honest a person as I have known that said he would not let a buyer take an unsafe setup out the door. After seeing what he did when towing I don't think he knew a bad setup.
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