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Old 05-18-2015, 10:05 PM   #1
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Frameless Windows ????

Hi all, we are looking at purchasing our first travel trailer and noticed everything we find has frameless windows. They only open about 2 or 3 inches on the bottom so we are wondering if they give enough ventilation? We camp all summer and sometimes it gets pretty warm, I know we will run the ac but at night we like to sleep with fresh air coming in.
Could anyone give us their opinion from experience with these windows?
The trailer is a 2016 Apex 23 ft. lite trailer, seems insulated well but imagine could cook on a hot summer day? Thanks
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Old 05-18-2015, 10:13 PM   #2
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We don't have them and frankly don't want them due to just what you've heard. They do give air circulation when it's raining but then that's what awnings are for also. Plus we have RV Kitty Kondo'sİ for the cats to go out in when parked and haven't figured out how they could ever work with the frame less windows.
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Old 05-18-2015, 10:21 PM   #3
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We had the Hehr brand windows on our 5th wheel, seem to work fine just dont break them very expensive to replace. They are nice in the rain you can leave them open.
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Old 05-18-2015, 11:16 PM   #4
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They are and look expensive. The only advantage I have found.
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Old 05-18-2015, 11:19 PM   #5
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They offer plenty of ventilation and have the benefit of both keeping rain out when open and making it difficult to break in if open. Anyone can break in if they really want to regardless but it is a bit more difficult. Other benefits are that they look great, are easy to clean without frames, and when you get double pane they are pretty efficient. I was indifferent to them prior to getting my trailer but after having them for a couple years I would prefer my next trailer to also have them. You will find that most open much more than 2 or 3 inches. The smaller ones open less, the larger ones open 6" or so a the bottom but technically you have much more surface area that is now open for air flow than just the bottom opening. Even the smallest ones I have allow for quite a bit of circulation, especially if you turn on a fantastic fan.
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Old 05-20-2015, 06:05 AM   #6
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I dislike the new frame less windows so much in fact I bought the last of my TT model with the old style. They look nice but I just can't see how opening a couple inches compares to a slide open window with several inches of full screen with a breeze blowing through. In the rain there are a couple windows that crank open to keep rain out and the windows and doors under the awning can also be left open. Just my personal taste
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Old 05-20-2015, 09:30 AM   #7
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We have them on our new Gateway. They look nice but don't offer as much air flow as the standard windows we had in our Pioneer. The one good thing about them is that they won't let rain in if left open by mistake like the regular type will.
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We have them as well. Look good and they say their thermal pane. The exposed edge of the window my get chipped while towing even if the windows are closed. I don't think Arctic Fox have frameless windows...I believe they have the sliders.
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I like the fact that you don't have to check the caulking and re-caulk the frames. Much cleaner looking. Not sure on the air circulation part though. I would think that a Fan Tastic fan in one end of the trailer should be enough to move plenty of air through.
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They offer plenty of ventilation and have the benefit of both keeping rain out when open and making it difficult to break in if open. ....
Plenty of ventilation. That is the key.

What is "plenty" to most people expecting a free flowing cross breeze by simply opening up the windows, is not "plenty" to owners who must use vent fans to get any air flow at all.

Many owners of new $500k+ motorhomes are dismayed to find that they do not have any natural mechanically un-assisted air flow when opening up the windows.

Yes, there is "plenty" of air to avoid asphyxiation. There is "plenty" of air flow to operate a catalytic propane heater. But there is not "plenty" of air flow to achieve an actual breeze.
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Plenty of ventilation. That is the key.

What is "plenty" to most people expecting a free flowing cross breeze by simply opening up the windows, is not "plenty" to owners who must use vent fans to get any air flow at all.

Many owners of new $500k+ motorhomes are dismayed to find that they do not have any natural mechanically un-assisted air flow when opening up the windows.

Yes, there is "plenty" of air to avoid asphyxiation. There is "plenty" of air flow to operate a catalytic propane heater. But there is not "plenty" of air flow to achieve an actual breeze.
Sure, it is all subjective. I do however get lots of cross ventilation from merely opening my windows but I have a lot of windows so maybe that makes up for it. I get a really good breeze. Works for us and my wife is a stickler for fresh air in the trailer.
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I thought they had less airflow, than the framed one and I had to use my fans. in my previous unit that was not necessary. Guess it depends on how much air circulation you need and how hot it is.
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If it's hot I turn on the AC, if it's cold I turn on the heat. If I really want air I open the doors and turn on the fan. For everything else, the windows work just fine.
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I love them on our new TT. We haven't had them before. The side windows on the slide open the old way so they provided a cross breeze. The frameless windows provided us with lots of ventilation. Don't forget that the door can remain open too. And if we wanted lots more, we just turned on the fantastic fan. No complaints here at all.
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