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Old 12-12-2013, 05:13 PM   #1
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Hooking up a generator

Is there any need to take any special precautions when hooking up a regular gasoline generator to my TT ? Not an inverter one. Just a regular alternator one. Precautions such as line conditioners or voltage regulators ? I have a Champion brand one which from what I've read is a good brand as far as Chinese gennys go.

Is it okay to just fire it up, plug it in and go ? Its 5k running watts so size isn't a problem. just worried about voltage fluctuations and varying frequency.
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Old 12-12-2013, 05:34 PM   #2
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It all depends on the generator.. But if it's not an inverter generator then you should pack plenty of ear plugs for your neighbors.

Generators come in several flavors, Many of the small (usually under 5,000 watt) generators where the motor speed is 3600 rpm (3000 in countries with 50 hz power) are kind of nasty power wise. If that is the case I might risk my converter, but I'd run the TV and such off the inverter (Which in my rig is a true sine wave, I would not use an MSW for that).

Of course I have two converters in this rig... I would only risk one of them on a cheap generator.

That said.. I used to have a 1,000 watt generator, not an inverter but it was enclosed (Making it much easier on the ears, roughly the sound equal to a Honda EU-2000i) it gave out fairly clean power, it was well built.

But most of the imported ones... not what I'd recommend.
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Installing a Progressive Industries EMS may be a good idea as it will prevent things from going too far astray and you can check voltage and frequency. You do however have to jumper so it does not see the or you will get an error which is because the generator has no neutral-ground bond which you would get from the utility. You can make a bypass or make a bonding plug. To make a bonding plug get a replacement plug from the hardware store. Get a 100,000 ohm 1/2 watt or 1 watt resistor from the electronics supply house. Connect the neutral and ground pins within the plug. No cord gets attached. Insert the plug into one of the generator outlets and the error will clear. The resistor is small enough that it should fit inside the plug housing.
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If it's a conventional generator (non-inverter) it will already be bonded - it has to be or it would never make power across the quadrature.
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My generator is listed as having a floating neutral. It does work and power things as needed. But i worry that i could possibly do harm to things. My tester shows no voltage to ground and a voltage of 126 volts hot to neutral with no load. Yes i know that an inverter generator would solve the issue. But i would like to make this one work if i could without having to purchase another one.

Thanks for the advice.
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I've got a Champion 4000W and it seems to work fine but I have an older TT with no big electronics and I only run it to charge the batteries for a shorter period each day and not run the TV at night with it. I will be getting a small inverter for the TV only, at night, before my next trip.
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Ok new to this as many are, did purchase a 4000 Champion generator for the purpose of camping if needed. However I would like to know why an inverter is needed and its purpose.
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I have the Champion 4000 that I use during power outages at home. I have had no problems at all using it to power my equipment including 55 inch tv and satellite system.
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I have the Champion 4000 that I use during power outages at home. I have had no problems at all using it to power my equipment including 55 inch tv and satellite system.
Yes I have done the same with no problems.
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TopV You would only need an inverter to run your TV or other 120V A/C electric appliances (small microwave) if you didn't or couldn't (quiet hours at the RV park) run your generator. Then the inverter would turn your 12 volt DC battery power from the trailer batteries into 120 volt A/C electricity to run those items.
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Your neighbors will hate you when you run the Champion generator...unless you let them plug in as well.

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Is there any need to take any special precautions when hooking up a regular gasoline generator to my TT ? Not an inverter one. Just a regular alternator one. Precautions such as line conditioners or voltage regulators ? I have a Champion brand one which from what I've read is a good brand as far as Chinese gennys go.

Is it okay to just fire it up, plug it in and go ? Its 5k running watts so size isn't a problem. just worried about voltage fluctuations and varying frequency.
ONLY PROBLEM is the noise. It's extremely inconsiderate to run a noisey generator in a camp ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But than there sure are a lot of people who don't give a dam about anyone else.
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What amount of output wattage would be required to run the a/c from a generator? I have a 24 Element.
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Old 12-15-2013, 01:25 PM   #14
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ONLY PROBLEM is the noise. It's extremely inconsiderate to run a noisey generator in a camp ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But than there sure are a lot of people who don't give a dam about anyone else.
This is for primitive usage only when there will be no neighbors. Trust me, I know this is a noisy generator. And I am always conscience of others.

My only concern is burning something up with " not pure / clean power. I know that there are varying degrees of clean to dirty power when it comes to conventional generators. Some el-cheapo units I would only trust powering my table saw. Not things like televisions or microwaves.

Thanks for the input from other Champion brand owners. So far it seems I'm good to go.
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