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Old 11-06-2013, 08:15 AM   #15
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Just the opposite. My Passport is very well and solidly built, and not cheap att all, like most good ultralights; the problems I have are mostly coming from poor quality supplied parts (switches, countertops damaged by moisture, etc.)
I'm talking about behind the walls. I've seen behind a few of them.
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:23 AM   #16
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I would say that it boils down to what come the closest to what you are looking for. Floor plan, features, dealer, PRICE. I have owned a Jayco Designer. Nice unit well built but after 5 years things were starting to fall apart. The cabinetry was not all that great for a high end RV and the trim and window dressing left a lot to be desired. You can get a lemon in any RV no matter the manufacture. I am sure keystone makes some good units in the higher end of there line.
I never considered our two (2) Jayco Designers as "high end" units, so perhaps my expectations weren't excessive. Ours were good, solid units at their price points that gave us minimal problems with the Jayco "stuff". The main problems we had were with Todd Engineering power converters (changed out to Progressive Dynamics by me and paid for under Jayco's warranty) and a Norcold fridge cooling unit that failed after 3 months, again handled exceptionally well by Jayco customer service. When the selling dealer couldn't get me into the shop for 2 months, Jayco found a nearby authorized Norcold service facility that had the cooling unit changed out and us back on the road in 4 days, including the time to order and ship the cooling unit.

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I never considered our two (2) Jayco Designers as "high end" units, so perhaps my expectations weren't excessive. Ours were good, solid units at their price points that gave us minimal problems with the Jayco "stuff". The main problems we had were with Todd Engineering power converters (changed out to Progressive Dynamics by me and paid for under Jayco's warranty) and a Norcold fridge cooling unit that failed after 3 months, again handled exceptionally well by Jayco customer service. When the selling dealer couldn't get me into the shop for 2 months, Jayco found a nearby authorized Norcold service facility that had the cooling unit changed out and us back on the road in 4 days, including the time to order and ship the cooling unit.

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Well Rusty since the Designer was top of the line for jayco and the most expensive (more money than other brands) I would say that they were Hi end units at least for Jayco, if not for the industry. Mine was a 2007 and was well constructed, but had a lot of problems with trim and window dressing. also a lot of staples and poor finish. decals had bubbles. had it into dealers 2 times and new decals, same problem. After 5 years I started to have problems with cabinets falling apart. cabinetry was poor for a unit that was supposed to have cabinets made by the Amish. I traded it off in June 2013.
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Well Rusty since the Designer was top of the line for jayco and the most expensive (more money than other brands) I would say that they were Hi end units at least for Jayco, if not for the industry. Mine was a 2007 and was well constructed, but had a lot of problems with trim and window dressing. also a lot of staples and poor finish. decals had bubbles. had it into dealers 2 times and new decals, same problem. After 5 years I started to have problems with cabinets falling apart. cabinetry was poor for a unit that was supposed to have cabinets made by the Amish. I traded it off in June 2013.
They were hardly top of the line for the industry. My opinion of one that we sold was that it was better interior trimmings, heavier and thicker than average, but that's about it. Not much special.
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Keystone for the most part is very very cheaply built, and poorly. I've have a good number torn apart and don't care for their construction.
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Whens the last time you tore a Keystone Cougar High Country apart? 5 Inch STEEL roof trusses- aluminum studded walls with foam insulation-.
Keystone probably is the largest manufacturer of RV's in the world. Just look over their product line. A whole list of companies.
Jayco & Keystone make cheaper end models & high end models.
Do the research and good luck.
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ps. I've owned Jayco Eagle & Keystone Cougar High Country
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