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Old 10-26-2013, 12:45 PM   #1
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Making a travel trailer/toy hauler?

Hi all!

New guy here looking for some help. I need to haul 2 350 lbs bikes when we go on trips. We don't have a camper yet but are looking. We want a small trailer & we haven't been too impressed with the smaller toy haulers. We would like something with a slide out.

Is it possible to extend the frame front & rear and haul the two bikes one across the front & one across the back? I've had a few people say the frame isn't strong enough but that doesn't really make sense to me. Would it really be any different than having a longer trailer? It seems to me that the frame would want to bend where the suspension is attached, so how would 350 lbs of bike be different than 350 lbs of added trailer length? I'm sure I'm missing something but I can't see it. Do the manufacturers use different spec frame rails within the same model of trailer, 19' Passport frame made of lighter material than a 26' Passport?


We would use a tandem axle trailer & I think we could stay within the GVW of the trailer. We would use the back of our pick -up for storage. It's getting really hard for us to get the bikes in & out anymore.

Sorry for the ramble and thanks for the help!

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Old 10-26-2013, 01:06 PM   #2
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The simple answer is YES, you can modify the frame of a Towable RV. The only issue is that cost will be driven by complexity.

Your idea to split the load front and rear is good for weight distribution and to decrease the heft of either modification.

The front end mods will be much more complex with the frame/tongue junction being moved, plus the lights, brakes, propane line, and battery mount and power run.

Our last pop-top was lengthened in the front to allow a quad to be carried...it was great and several mfgts have since copied the idea. The pop-top had a square frame that connected to the tongue and was modified by just adding an extension and deck to the original frame...pretty simple.

To modify a Travel Trailer, I guess you will want to design a stretch to the ladder frame (front and rear) and move the tongue forward...shouldn't be too complex if you have the right materials and tools.

Best luck and hope you post results if you do it.
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Old 10-26-2013, 10:18 PM   #3
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Just saw a Cougar 5th wheel tonight with interesting modification.
The trailer had a motorcycle on the rear. And an additional axle to the rear of the original 2 axles. It actually was like a triaxle toyhauler without the enclosed garage.
To me it allowed rear loading and the 3rd axle provided support for extra weight and did not affect the pin weight.
Anything is possible if done right. So for me additional axle or existing axle arrangement improvement would be required along with frame modification.
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After a little thought...forget what I said before and get one of these:
Blue Ox - Sport Carrier II

Much easier and at about $2,800, probably cheaper than mods to a RV.

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I have seen this in use. With a two point hitch and swivel wheels, it can attach to rear of trailer and become part of it but carrying the weight of the bikes. Not sure where laws would prohibit. There is another make but could not find site. If I do, I will repost

http://www.smarttrailers.com

Found other site.

http://www.cruiserlift.com/swivelwheel58.html
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