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Old 04-16-2013, 06:38 PM   #1
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Need Advice and Information!! Crossroads Z-1?

I know this is the BEST place to ask!! I have searched a few keywords and cannot seem to locate the information:

I am looking to get back into RV'ing!!!

I am looking at a Crossroads Z-1 by Thor Industries. Anyone have any experience with these? Good, Bad or Ugly??

I appreciate the advice!

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Old 04-16-2013, 11:59 PM   #2
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Sorry I don't know anything about the Crossroads Z-1, but I have moved your thread to the Travel Trailer Owners Section so hopefully it will get more visibility and input. Good luck!

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Old 04-17-2013, 09:14 AM   #3
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Thor doesn't make any "bad" RV trailers, so the Z-1 is probably comparable to any other good brand of TT.

But your problem is they are not light weight. The lightest one the 21 footer model ZT211RD with GVWR of 7,522. The other end of the scale is the 30 footer model ZT301BH with GVWR of 9,688.

If that 1500 CrewCab 4x4 is your tow vehicle, then even the smallest Z-1 with a GVWR of 7,522 will probably overload your half-ton tow vehicle. Your heavy CrewCab body and 4x4 drivetrain use up most of the available payload, leaving not much for trailer hitch weight.

My half-ton tow vehicle is overloaded with a TT that has a GVWR of only 5,600 pounds. When loaded to a gross trailer weight of 4,830 pounds, I was overloaded by 100 pounds over the GVWR of my tow vehicle.

So I'd suggest you do some research as to the max unused payload you have before you tie onto the trailer. Towing overloaded is common, but not very smart. So determine the max tongue weight you can tow without being overloaded, then don't buy a trailer that has more wet and loaded tongue weight than that.

Best way to get a good estimate is to load the Ram with everything that will be in it when towing: driver, passengers, pets, tools, jack(s), weight-distributing hitch, other stuff. Go to a truckstop that has a certified, automated truck (CAT) scale and fill up with gas. Then weigh the wet and loaded tow vehicle. Subtract that weight from the GVWR of your Ram and the answer is the max wet and loaded tongue weight you can tow without being overloaded. Divide that max tongue weight by 0.15 and the answer is the max GVWR of any TT you should consider buying. And I'll bet the answer is a lot less than 7,522 pounds GVWR of the smallest Z-1.

Ignore "dry" weights, which are almost meaningless. Use the GVWR of the trailer as the probable wet and loaded weight of the RV. Use 15% of the GVWR of the trailer as the probable hitch weight of the wet and loaded trailer. Then you will have a pretty good real-world estimate of what you will look like when you weigh the rig in the middle of your third camping trip.
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:45 AM   #4
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I have a 2013 ZT291RL. Great floorplan. I bought it only couple of months ago and had it out for a one week trip. Everything works great, no problems at all. Not much experience with it, but looks good so far.

Furniture and mattress not the most comfortable, but Z-1 is not a "top of the line". Toss the mattress and get a good one.

I pull it with an F150 with Ecoboost and it does fine.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:15 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by SmokeyWren View Post
Thor doesn't make any "bad" RV trailers, so the Z-1 is probably comparable to any other good brand of TT.
They just use inadequate (for the larger TT) Lippert axles that bend and destroy the tires. They also use ultra cheap poor quality jack-knife sofabeds and dinette seats - both flatten after a few uses. The cover material is also cheap and very tacky. They will not replace them with better quality materials or seats even if you offer to pay for better quality replacements.
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They just use inadequate (for the larger TT) Lippert axles that bend and destroy the tires.
That is a disturbing statement. How do you know this to be the case?

Hope some other owners will jump in and confirm.

Guess I will call Crossroads to discuss this possible issue.


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