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Old 04-04-2013, 10:04 AM   #1
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We are considering a light weight travel trailer (Scamp, Casita, Jayco, ?). We will tow it with a 2012 Toyota Highlander, 6 cylinder with tow package. Does a two axled trailer tow easier than one?
What brake options should we be aware of?
How big a help are load balanced hitches?
Does $8900 for a 2012, clean Starcraft AR One, 14RB sound like a good deal?
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Welcome to IRV2. You should get good advice here. Good luck.
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:47 AM   #3
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If you do get a molded fiberglass RV (like a Scamp, Casita, etc.), I suggest that you also join the forum devoted to that type of trailers: http://www.fiberglassrv.com/
They will be able to answer your questions for that specific type of trailer. Most people on this forum have relatively large trailers and their answers might not apply to a 13'-17' single axle, very lightweight trailer.
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Old 04-05-2013, 02:25 PM   #4
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We are considering a light weight travel trailer (Scamp, Casita, Jayco, ?). We will tow it with a 2012 Toyota Highlander, 6 cylinder with tow package. Does a two axled trailer tow easier than one?
What brake options should we be aware of?
How big a help are load balanced hitches?
Does $8900 for a 2012, clean Starcraft AR One, 14RB sound like a good deal?
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Does $8900 for a 2012, clean Starcraft AR One, 14RB sound like a good deal?
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Does $8900 for a 2012, clean Starcraft AR One, 14RB sound like a good deal?
A lot to consider, price can vary by area, one owner or X rental. Condition , condition ,condition , options.
Typical one year price drop would be 30% from new.
Many trailer bake controllers out there, for the most part , as far as price, you get what you pay for. Same for sway control hitches.
JMHO. Once you have driven with sway ( equalizer style hitches ) you won't tow without one.
Dual axle trailer handles better but adds weight , how does the GVW of the trailer compare to the trailer tow capacity of your vehicle trailer tow capacity, remember that cargo and passengers reduce the amout you can tow also.
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You can look up prices at www.NADAguides.com
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:58 AM   #7
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Thanks. That helped a lot.
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Have you given any thought to renting one similar to the one you want to buy and taking it out for a trip and camping? Maybe you could get a better idea on how it towed, etc
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For the lite weight that you will be towing you should be in good shape with a good WD hitch. A WD hitch will also help with sway.

You should be able to get 25% off mrsp easy. 30% off is not as easy unless it is at a show.

Stick with the trailers you mentioned. Do not look at any 25' trailers with a slide. Those are in a different towing group and will max out an SUV.
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We are considering a light weight travel trailer (Scamp, Casita, Jayco, ?). We will tow it with a 2012 Toyota Highlander, 6 cylinder with tow package.
The Highlander V6 with tow pkg should be able to tow a TT with a GVWR up to about 3,500 pounds with no problems, PROVIDED you have nothing in the SUV except Mom, Dad, and up to two little kids. No tools, etc. Put that extra stuff in the trailer.

SUVs are extremely easy to overload if you try to haul a truck full of passengers and tow a trailer at the same time. The GVWR is just not available to haul more than a small family and the hitch weight of a small TT.

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Does a two axled trailer tow easier than one?
I don't think so, as long as you have plenty of tire weight capacity, a weight-distributing hitch, and have properly loaded the trailer to have 12 to 15% of the trailer's gross weight as tongue weight.

If you don't want to have trailer tire problems, then be sure the combined weight capacity of your trailer tires is at least 20% higher than the GVWR of the trailer. Then keep the trailer tires pumped up to the max PSI on the tire sidewall.

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What brake options should we be aware of?
For even a tiny TT, you want electric brakes controlled with a brake controller inside the SUV.

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How big a help are load balanced hitches?
If you mean a weight-distributing hitch, they are essential for any TT that weighs more than about 2,000 pounds. Don't leave home without one. The model 14RB trailer you mentioned has a GVWR of 3,000 pounds, so a max tongue weight of about 450 pounds. So your WD hitch should include sway control and be rated for 600 pounds hitch weight, which is the lightest duty WD hitch normally available. Here's one that will meet your requirements:
Equal-i-zer Weight Distribution System w/ 4-Point Sway Control - 600 lbs TW

I prefer the Reese Strait-Line Dual Cam WD hitch, but the lightest duty they make is for a tongue weight of 800 pounds.
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The Highlander V6 with tow pkg should be able to tow a TT with a GVWR up to about 3,500 pounds with no problems, PROVIDED you have nothing in the SUV except Mom, Dad, and up to two little kids. No tools, etc. Put that extra stuff in the trailer.

SUVs are extremely easy to overload if you try to haul a truck full of passengers and tow a trailer at the same time. The GVWR is just not available to haul more than a small family and the hitch weight of a small TT.

I don't think so, as long as you have plenty of tire weight capacity, a weight-distributing hitch, and have properly loaded the trailer to have 12 to 15% of the trailer's gross weight as tongue weight.

If you don't want to have trailer tire problems, then be sure the combined weight capacity of your trailer tires is at least 20% higher than the GVWR of the trailer. Then keep the trailer tires pumped up to the max PSI on the tire sidewall.

For even a tiny TT, you want electric brakes controlled with a brake controller inside the SUV.

If you mean a weight-distributing hitch, they are essential for any TT that weighs more than about 2,000 pounds. Don't leave home without one. The model 14RB trailer you mentioned has a GVWR of 3,000 pounds, so a max tongue weight of about 450 pounds. So your WD hitch should include sway control and be rated for 600 pounds hitch weight, which is the lightest duty WD hitch normally available. Here's one that will meet your requirements:
Equal-i-zer Weight Distribution System w/ 4-Point Sway Control - 600 lbs TW

I prefer the Reese Strait-Line Dual Cam WD hitch, but the lightest duty they make is for a tongue weight of 800 pounds.
Thanks for the frank and wise advice.
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I think the 2008 Highlander to current with the tow packages have a 5,000 lb capacity. Pre 2008 they had a 3,500 towing capacity.
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I think the 2008 Highlander to current with the tow packages have a 5,000 lb capacity. Pre 2008 they had a 3,500 towing capacity.
His Highlander has a 5,000-pound "tow rating". But tow rating is not the same thing as actual max trailer weight without being overloaded. The tow rating assumes absolutely nothing in the SUV but a skinny driver. With a normal small family plus snacks and drinks and some traveling "stuff", a 3,500 pound max trailer weight is a lot more realistic.
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Agree 100%. SUV's are designed for smooth soft rides and are not usually designed to carry heavy loads. Lowing the trailer onto a truck will lower a truck 2" while it will lower an SUV 4" to 5".
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