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Old 07-13-2016, 11:17 AM   #29
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Have you ever put your fully loaded truck and 5th wheel, with all gear and passengers, on a scale ?
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Until I began searching and shopping a few years ago, I had no idea how many ultralight 5th wheels were available. If you can zoom the picture in, you can see the specs on 2013 rockwoods. Mine is the 8282ws. Mine is a little heavier, 7750 lbs dry, due to added options.



Here's the specs.

What is the payload capacity on your tundra?
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Old 07-13-2016, 12:32 PM   #31
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Payload is only 1425. Never weighed it but I know I'm over. Just answering the question "how is that possible?"
Point being, there are lots of half tons out there with higher payloads than mine and many light weight fivers.
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Old 07-13-2016, 12:47 PM   #32
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Your pin weight alone is probably close to your payload amount. Maybe it's just me, but I don't consider an RV in the 8,000# range as being ultra light, at least not when you're talking about a 1/2 vehicle as the tow vehicle.
How well does your Tundra handle the 5th wheel ? Aside from the weight, that's a very long RV, at almost 32'.
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Yikes dude! That does not sound close to safe.
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Your pin weight alone is probably close to your payload amount. Maybe it's just me, but I don't consider an RV in the 8,000# range as being ultra light, at least not when you're talking about a 1/2 vehicle as the tow vehicle.
How well does your Tundra handle the 5th wheel ? Aside from the weight, that's a very long RV, at almost 32'.
Still have about 300# of payload. Hitch, me and wife are obviously over that, but it pulls fine. Accelerates on inclined when I need it to. Brakes fine downhill. Have airbags to keep level. 380hp and 400 ft-lb torque. More than 20,000 miles pulling fivers with this 2008. Last one was a wildcat at 29', 8650# dry and 1400# pin. Pulled it 3 years including Louisiana to Estes Park, CO twice, Yellowstone, Ozarks, Smokies and all over the south. It was fine but a little too bouncy. This rockwood is an easy tow. 32' isn't long compared to others I see in cgs. Pulled it to co, wy, Mo, VA, and others the last 3 years. Probably @15-20,000 miles.
My next truck may be a diesel but I have no complaints or regrets with the tundra. Plus it's a daily driver along with my z71 4x4 and wife's Highlander.
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Sounds like its been working out fine for you.
I was impressed with the specs for your truck, or at least something similar if not exactly the same. I see a GVWR of 6,990# and a towing capacity of 8,600# adding up to a total of 15,500#, which is actually below the 16,000# GCWR. In so many vehicles when you add those figures, you can be way over the GCWR.
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Aren't Tundras really derated 3/4 tons? Toyota does that so they will attract more buyers. It keeps ins lower too.
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At the time I bought it, 2008, it had the highest V8 HP and torque, tow rating, and largest disc brakes at @13". Now GM, Ford and Dodge have all stepped up. Tundra hasn't changed much since 2007. That's why my next may be a diesel. My double cab was rated 10,600 towing when I bought it. It's been a joy to own with no out of pocket repairs in 8 years. Several recalls tho. 😃
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I believe that year of Tundra was the first truck to adhere to the SAE J2807 tow standard which shows what the truck is truly capable of towing in real world conditions, not just in theory on paper and in perfect world conditions.
Toyota knew that tow ratings are a big deciding factor for a lot of buyers so in order to adhere to the new standards AND compete in the same ball park with tow ratings as the big 3 trucks they would have to beef the Tundra up that much more.
TLDR: the Tundra's tow ratings are realistic of what it can safely tow.
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So you've admitted that you're overweight, which I knew you were as soon as I saw your picture. Seems very careless to me so thanks for putting everyone at risk including your family but I guess they're good with it because 'it tows fine'! Your pin weight is around 1750 so it's overloaded before you even get in the truck!
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We see 3/4 ton PU's towing a triple all the time
Long fifth wheel towing a boat
Big motor but no STOP .🙈
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So you've admitted that you're overweight, which I knew you were as soon as I saw your picture. Seems very careless to me so thanks for putting everyone at risk including your family but I guess they're good with it because 'it tows fine'! Your pin weight is around 1750 so it's overloaded before you even get in the truck!
A lawyer will have a field day if he is ever in an accident and hurts someone....but as long as it tows just fine
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So you've admitted that you're overweight, which I knew you were as soon as I saw your picture. Seems very careless to me so thanks for putting everyone at risk including your family but I guess they're good with it because 'it tows fine'! Your pin weight is around 1750 so it's overloaded before you even get in the truck!
Wow Jim. Didn't mean to insult you or make you scared to get on the road. I apologize. My pin weight is nowhere near 1700 pounds. Closer to 1400. You must have a gift to be able to look at a rig and KNOW the pin weight. You could make a lot of money doing that. (I'm kidding with you of course)
On a serious note. I have full confidence in my setup, and may have even passed you many times on the road. Certainly, I've passed by literally thousands of cars and trucks over the past 11 years and not one has been hurt or damaged. Having done my research, the truck can do more than the "half-ton label indicates.
Here's wishing you, and me, many, many more years of happy and safe travels. God bless you. David
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