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Old 07-07-2016, 05:04 PM   #1
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Out with the pop up this week and I was watching units as they pulled in to the campground or driving along the road. Many seem to not be set to tow correctly or maybe too much trailer for the tv. A lot of f150 1500s towing huge trailers with the front end up in the air or bouncing up a date down as.they go along the road. As I look around the campground I see many long trailers with f150 or 1500s as tv. Makes me wonder how many of these people just went with the dealer saying they could tow it. Or maybe I'm just one example who over analyzes things.
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Old 07-08-2016, 12:06 PM   #3
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I have noticed the same thing . I stay as far away
From these people as possible . How about the cowboy in the passing lane doing 65-70 mph.
Accident waiting to happen.
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Old 07-08-2016, 12:15 PM   #4
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I see way more 3/4 tons overloaded and sagging than half tons.
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I see way more 3/4 tons overloaded and sagging than half tons.


Same here
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Old 07-08-2016, 07:41 PM   #6
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Yep, especially f250s pulling a 40ft toy hauler pushing probably north of 20,000lbs loaded.
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I see way more 3/4 tons overloaded and sagging than half tons.
Really???? I see 25 overloaded (based on visualization of the unit, not actual numbers) half tons for every overloaded 3/4 ton.
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While I do see plenty of trucks pulling TT and 5er rigs that are too big, what I am seeing a lot of this summer are mid size SUVs, loaded with both parents, 3 kids, 2 dogs, and all thier "stuff" jammed into the SUV then they are pulling a TT that is obviously too big even if the SUV only had one person and no cargo in it.

Maybe, just maybe, if the SUV was empty, and the trailer empty, they would fall within the allowable tow / and total weight for the SUV, but given how they are loaded up, the SUV looks like the front tires ready to come off the ground if the hitch doesn't act like a wheelie bar......

Scary stuff........ Be safe!
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Really???? I see 25 overloaded (based on visualization of the unit, not actual numbers) half tons for every overloaded 3/4 ton.
Overloaded half tons, maybe - maybe not ? I find it amazing how much weight some of these half tons are rated to tow.
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To tow, yes. Payload, not so much. . .
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To tow, yes. Payload, not so much. . .
There are F150s (as one example) with payloads over 3,200#
2016 Ford F-150 Full Size Pickup Truck | Payload Specifications | Ford.com
The lowest payload looks like something over 1,500#
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You're numbers are correct, but I would counter that there are precious few F150s on the road with a 3200# payload based on what you have to live with (and without) to get to that number.
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Living very near 2 major highway leading to several national and state
parks we see RV traveling every day. DW and I always comment on
major overloaded, unsafe rigs. We see more and more with no sway bars
as the TT is swagging down the highway at 75+ MPH.

We seem to see big long TT or 5th with 1/2 Ton cruzing at 75 down the highway.

Many insurance will not pay out if their audit shows you did not have the
proper TV. I had a guy at work upset as he was hit from the side (not his
fault). The trailer swag so much it hit another truck and trailer (his fault) because of no sway bars. Well the insurance had a legal out not to pay a dime for the repairs / replacements.

I upgraded 2 years ago to a 1 ton, which was a overkill but I like to go up step grades out here. I never worry about the the next hill because I have the tow ability and payload, etc.
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Overloaded rigs seem to out number properly setup rigs these days. So many justify overloaded setups because they saw someone else do it, so it must be OK. And so many think air bags make up the difference and allows them to tow more.

And they get so darn defensive if someone tries to point out their tow vehicle is overloaded . Even with the exact specifications of what they can safely tow clearly laid out in front of them, they will call BS.

We stay as far away as possible from them on the road. And it never fails out here in the west with our hills to have some overloaded yahoo fly past us, engine screaming, only to be on the side of the road with the hood up a short time later.

Stupid reproduces at a higher rate than others.
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