Ok so is this crazy

[Fun holiday]

We are buying a new travel trailer, probably the Keystone Outback 292h but our dealer has an Open Range 5th Wheel. It is a Light lf305bhs. We love it and it has an outdoor kitchen. I have not been able to find a travel trailer that is fiberglass with over 40 gray water, less than 33 feet with a true outdoor kitchen. Right on the fifth wheel it say half ton towable. We have a 2009 Toyota tundra crewmax 4wd. Of course dealer says perfect fit but I am not so sure about that when I look at he payload. I dont want to have to be concerned about items we bring. The open range has a weight of 7940 and hitch weight1400.

[KJcachers]

What's the payload of the truck and the pin weight of the 5er? Not a lot of 1/2 truck really capable of towing a 5th wheel. Check out the 5th wheel section o this forum for a huge discussion of this very topic.

[Groovy]

We towed a 7000 lb 27' TT with an '04 Toyota Tundra -- smaller engine than yours, I believe. The truck was overloaded and we upgraded to a Dodge RAM 3500... It towed okay in the flats but could not handle going uphill... I know this isn't apples-to-apples...

[Fun holiday]

Payload is 1615. Is pin weight same as hitch weight?

[Kdawg]

Payload - (people + cargo) = available for tongue/5th. Most likely not going to work. There are some 1/2 tons with 2500 payload that'll work, they are usually the HD versions.

[docj]

According to Edmunds.com those maximum payload (1615 lb) and tow ratings can be achieved "When adequately equipped, which may require engine and/or other drivetrain upgrades." You might want to talk to Toyota to see if you would need to make some changes to the Tundra.