propane canisters

[larrydp]

got a nice propane gas grill from Santa!!!! are those 16 oz. containers refillable? and if so.........how? thanks
hope your Christmas was Great

[Lorna]

Not really safely. You are relying on a needle valve to hold up to multiple uses when it was designed to be used once. I have had them fail after using just for one time cooking, unthreaded from the grill and all the gas leaked away. We use an extension line from a 20 lb LP tank to the grill (last one we bought was a coleman from Wal-Mart). Cheaper to use the bigger tank and it screws into the valve on our homebrewed extend-a-stay setup.

(The valve that is pointing down is the one that goes to our BBQ grill) http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/s...t=PIC_1936.jpg

[DriVer]

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Originally Posted by larrydp got a nice propane gas grill from Santa!!!! are those 16 oz. containers refillable? and if so.........how? thanks hope your Christmas was Great

No they are not. Please do not consider re-filling 1 lb disposable cylinders. I would rather see you get a 5 lb LP bottle. It's small enough to tote around and it's refillable and lasts a long time. See the website at manchestertank.com.

OR

If your LP system will support it, also consider getting an Extend-A-Flow.

[Midniteoyl]

Yes, they are refillable... from a 20lb tank: Propane Bottle Refill Kit

Of course, if your carrying around a 20lb, might as well use that instead

[larrydp]

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Originally Posted by DriVer No they are not. Please do not consider re-filling 1 lb disposable cylinders. I would rather see you get a 5 lb LP bottle. It's small enough to tote around and it's refillable and lasts a long time. See the website at manchestertank.com. OR If your LP system will support it, also consider getting an Extend-A-Flow.

DriVer, thanks...........what hoses/connecters would i need?

[johnsonjm209]

I love those little bottles. I can cook with them, leave them on to (burn off),clean the grill, shut them off and use them usually one more time. Then, when I'm through with them I can throw them away. No large tank to store and no hoses to fool around with.

[Ray,IN]

Yes they are refill-able but once re-filled cannot legally be transported across state lines- re: labeling. The re-filling "kit" does work but IMO not worth the time and effort. I watch for them on sale and buy a few extra when the opportunity arises.

[DriVer]

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Originally Posted by Midniteoyl Yes, they are refillable... from a 20lb tank: Propane Bottle Refill Kit

I'm a retired professional firefighter. Please call your local or State Fire Marshall's office and ask them if they recommend whether or not you can/should refill 1 pound disposable LP cylinders.

I say, Nay Nay!

I hope you read the piece I wrote about the Harbor Freight fuel pressure gauge filling up with gasoline and dripping on my engine.

From Coleman FAQ:

Refilling a Propane Cylinder

Published 03/18/2010 03:00 PM | Updated 04/24/2010 12:44 AM
Can I refill a Coleman® Propane Cylinder?
No. The cylinders are not designed to be and are not safe when refilled. Our 16.4 oz. cylinders, and all other cylinders marked DOT-39, which are produced in accordance with Department of Transportation regulations which preclude their refilling.

The regulations also specifically state that each cylinder must be marked with: "Federal law forbids transportation if refilled-penalty up to $500,000 fine and 5 years imprisonment (49 USC 5124)".

Some other companies offer refilling kits or tools. We strongly recommend that you do not attempt to use these products. Refilled cylinders can leak from the valves or the valves can fail resulting in an uncontrolled release of propane. In addition, the main valve, relief valve and structural components of the cylinders are not designed to accept the pressures that may occur during refilling. Overpressure may result in failure of these components and the uncontrolled release of propane.

Coleman suggests recycling the cylinders when possible.

[DriVer]

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Originally Posted by larrydp DriVer, thanks...........what hoses/connectors would i need?

You just need the standard external hand tighten LP hose for the tank side and the conventional hand screw in fitting to mate up with the regulator on the stove. I have I believe a 4 to 5 foot hose. 1 hose - No tools required for the hose. The regulator may need a small thumb wrench where it hooks up to the stove. I base this on an Olympian stove.

[larrydp]

DriVer, thanks......i have seen, in the stores, hoses for propane equiptment but how do i know if what i buy will fit the regulator? take the regulator with me to the store? ha, duh!

[Campingman]

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Originally Posted by Ray,IN Yes they are refill-able but once re-filled cannot legally be transported across state lines- re: labeling. The re-filling "kit" does work but IMO not worth the time and effort. I watch for them on sale and buy a few extra when the opportunity arises.

Walmart on sale, buy a case or two.

[Lorna]

Wander into the camping aisle (not the RV) at Wal-Mart and get to the area where they have the LP cooktops, Propane lanterns and hanging on a hook will be several LP items like long manifold poles that attach to 20LB LP BBQ tanks. There you will find a hose.

This one connects to a fitting like what is on the disposable tank and then directly to your grill... you will need one of the following two fittings that will connect directly to your BBQ tank.





This one connects directly to 20LB BBQ tank to your Grill. It works on the kind of BBQ tank that has the big threads on the outside of the valve.

I'm partial the the fittings that do not require me to locate the wrench that will fit the nut on the valve. The big Black fitting is great for cold weather. I have yet to have any problems removing it when cold/wet/icy outside.
A word of warning. We had to buy two hoses (the one on top) before we got one that would work the last time we bought one. I think it was a returned hose, so we took it back. Had the same problem with a 2 burner cooktop. The stove looked like it had been used. So keep your receipt until you find out if the hose/fitting is okay. We bought our fittings from ACE hardware store (Mr Heater brand parts). I put a small amount of white Lithium grease on the threads of the part that screws into the grill. Two dissimilar metals tends to oxidize and the grease makes it easy to thread and unthread by hand.

[Eric_H_E]

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Originally Posted by Lorna I put a small amount of white Lithium grease on the threads of the part that screws into the grill. Two dissimilar metals tends to oxidize and the grease makes it easy to thread and unthread by hand.

Hay DirVer

I know that with an accedeline/oxygne (spelling?) welding rig, that grease/oil is a BIG NO NO. are you sure this is ok with porpane??

[bachler]

I had people tell me they could be refilled;;; Well after buying the proper adaptor for the tank to tank ; Then you have to get a tool to back the little tire type valve fitting out, Now all the fun starts I filled 6 tanks ;That is not a fun job. I fill them by weight, That way you can pack it full;; Now I'm happy the adaptor cost me about $20.00 Plus all the other stuff And I had to buy the gas; ; The total cost I could have bought 12 !lb, bottles. Which is about a 4 years supply.. But wait there's more. I put one bottle in the BBQ, and one extra in the basement. We go out on the road and the wife complains about that darn sewer smell, You guessed it, as stated earlier Them bottles are made for one use. They were leaking. It's a wonder the coach didn't explode;; We got to a park I dug them out and set them next to the Dumpster with a Danger note. . They are designed to be throw away; so lets not make life more compilcated by doing some stupid thing . Just dispose of the empty one properly . buy a new one.