Go Back   iRV2 Forums > TRAVEL TRAILER, 5th WHEEL & TRUCK CAMPER FORUMS > Travel Trailer Discussion
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-12-2016, 01:42 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Nowhere, now here. Freedom!
Posts: 2,886
I don't see the ad, so I can't comment on what you are seeing.

I bought my TPMS system from TST, a board sponsor.
TST TPMS Systems
I have a dual axle trailer. I bought the 510 NOT FLOW THROUGH set with an extra pair of sensors. It came with a longer range antenna that I have tucked under the passenger side sun visor. Since I started using the longer range antenna, I have not had a sensor drop off the monitor at all.

I would recommend you buy the kit that you think best fits your needs, and then buy the repeater later as you might not need it if you use a longer range antenna like is provided in the 510 kit.
__________________

__________________
ORV 19B Full Timer, '14 Ram 2500 Diesel and a GSD. This signature updated, May 1, '17.
Currently working in Spokane WA de K7NOL 146.52Mhz Safety? (CLICK ME!)
1bigmess is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 08-12-2016, 02:55 PM   #16
Senior Member
Commercial Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Akron, Ohio
Posts: 1,394
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1bigmess View Post
www.rvtiresafety.com

tireman9 is the person I was talking about. He can sometimes seem coy, but we can try to coax more detail from him if we do it nicely.

Coy!

Never been accused of that before. Usually people think I can be too detailed. Wife says if you ask me what time it is I tell you how to build a watch.


Bottom line I would not spend more than $5 to keep tires up off direct contact with wet ground (piece of treated lumber is what I use) Just be sure you support the entire contact area as parking a tire on a single 2x4 can actually damage a tire.

Yes if parking for the winter inflate your tires to the tire sidewall max psi.

Whenever parking for shorter time be sure to check air occasionally to confirm you do not have small puncture or valve leak.
__________________

__________________
Retired Design & Quality Tire Eng. Read my tire blog RVTireSafety.NET to learn more about RV tires, valves & wheels. Read THIS post on why Tires Fail
Tireman9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2016, 03:00 PM   #17
Senior Member
Commercial Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Akron, Ohio
Posts: 1,394
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr4Film View Post
The best tire protector for the money and ease of use is 3M-303 Protectant.

Dr4Film ----- Richard

In general I prefer and use WHITE tire covers. My main concern is heat not UV.

RE various sprays. Never seen a tire company test any of various sprays in direct A-B controlled test. I do not like stuff that requires you to rub on the tire as that will remove the protectant chemicals we build in tires. Not saying 303 is no good, just that I have not seen sound data.
__________________
Retired Design & Quality Tire Eng. Read my tire blog RVTireSafety.NET to learn more about RV tires, valves & wheels. Read THIS post on why Tires Fail
Tireman9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2016, 03:33 PM   #18
Senior Member
 
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Nowhere, now here. Freedom!
Posts: 2,886
Thanks for the great info Tireman9. If you start a thread about how to make a watch I'll read it.
__________________
ORV 19B Full Timer, '14 Ram 2500 Diesel and a GSD. This signature updated, May 1, '17.
Currently working in Spokane WA de K7NOL 146.52Mhz Safety? (CLICK ME!)
1bigmess is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2016, 09:01 PM   #19
Member
 
stormrider15's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 74
I always park my trailer on 2x12's, Make sure they are aired up, Apply a UV protectant and keep them covered. I don't know what else you could do to protect tires. I use my TPMS to check the pressures when It's stored.
__________________
Retired Fire Dept Battalion Chief
2012 F150 FX4/ Max tow and Ecoboost
2016 Ever-Lite 232RBS
stormrider15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2016, 01:16 PM   #20
Senior Member
 
LarrySharon's Avatar
 
Thor Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 127
Tireman9

Sounds like you know a lot about tires, my question would be what is your opinion of during the hot summer months (rather than the hot winter months lol) lowering tire pressure a couple of PSIs? I understand some people do and claim that they have never had a blowout since doing it where as they would experience blowouts prior to the change.
__________________
LarrySharon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2016, 08:18 PM   #21
Senior Member
Commercial Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Akron, Ohio
Posts: 1,394
Quote:
Originally Posted by LarrySharon View Post
Tireman9

Sounds like you know a lot about tires, my question would be what is your opinion of during the hot summer months (rather than the hot winter months lol) lowering tire pressure a couple of PSIs? I understand some people do and claim that they have never had a blowout since doing it where as they would experience blowouts prior to the change.
Some people incorrectly believe that "blowouts" are the result of pressure increase when tire gets hot. The exact opposite is the truth. When a tire looses air (puncture or leaking valve) the sidewall flexes too much, overheats and the polyester body cord looses up to 100% of its strength. This results in the rubber having to hold the inflation pressure, which it cannot do for long. The tire sidewall then fails and "blows out" just a tire tube would if you tried to drive on a tube.

It is the inflation pressure that supports the load. If you let air out of a tire it can not support as much load so it flexes more. more flex = more sidewall heat.

The fact that the people have not had tire failure yet simply means they did not let out too much to result in an immediate failure but they did do damage that may result is a shorter tire life so months later when they do have a failure they do not connect the damage they did to the tire months earlier.
__________________
Retired Design & Quality Tire Eng. Read my tire blog RVTireSafety.NET to learn more about RV tires, valves & wheels. Read THIS post on why Tires Fail
Tireman9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2016, 08:31 PM   #22
Senior Member
 
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Nowhere, now here. Freedom!
Posts: 2,886
And ST type tires should always be run at the maximum sidewall pressure "cold".
__________________
ORV 19B Full Timer, '14 Ram 2500 Diesel and a GSD. This signature updated, May 1, '17.
Currently working in Spokane WA de K7NOL 146.52Mhz Safety? (CLICK ME!)
1bigmess is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2016, 09:15 AM   #23
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Maryland
Posts: 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tireman9 View Post
RE various sprays. Never seen a tire company test any of various sprays in direct A-B controlled test. I do not like stuff that requires you to rub on the tire as that will remove the protectant chemicals we build in tires. Not saying 303 is no good, just that I have not seen sound data.
That begs the question: will ordinary cleaning and scrubbing the tires with a scrub brush and detergent or other cleaners remove the built-in protectant chemicals? Curious minds want to know!
__________________
2010 26' Forest River Flagstaff Super Lite
2006 Ford F-250 Power Stroke
JimBob46 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 11:18 AM   #24
Senior Member
Commercial Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Akron, Ohio
Posts: 1,394
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1bigmess View Post
And ST type tires should always be run at the maximum sidewall pressure "cold".
Based on the Finite Element Analysis computer simulations of tire structural stresses, multi axle trailers can reduce, but not eliminate the increase in Interply Shear experienced with their tires by increasing tire inflation which lowers the tire slip angle.

This leads to the suggestion that any type tire will see lower stresses with increased inflation in multi-axle trailer application.

So the conclusion ends up that setting the Cold Inflation Pressure to the tire sidewall max pressure is a strongly recommended policy.
__________________
Retired Design & Quality Tire Eng. Read my tire blog RVTireSafety.NET to learn more about RV tires, valves & wheels. Read THIS post on why Tires Fail
Tireman9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 11:22 AM   #25
Senior Member
Commercial Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Akron, Ohio
Posts: 1,394
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBob46 View Post
That begs the question: will ordinary cleaning and scrubbing the tires with a scrub brush and detergent or other cleaners remove the built-in protectant chemicals? Curious minds want to know!
If you inspect a tire that has not been cleaned for a while and scrape your fingernail across the surface you will discover the wax and oils that you pay for in your tires is on the tire surface.
Then "scrubbing the tires with a scrub brush and detergent or other cleaner" and letting the tire dry and again use your fingernail you will find no wax. So yes you have just removed the built in protectant chemicals.
__________________
Retired Design & Quality Tire Eng. Read my tire blog RVTireSafety.NET to learn more about RV tires, valves & wheels. Read THIS post on why Tires Fail
Tireman9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 11:30 AM   #26
Senior Member
 
tmw188's Avatar


 
National RV Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: St. Charles MO
Posts: 1,907
Send a message via AIM to tmw188
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tireman9 View Post
Based on the Finite Element Analysis computer simulations of tire structural stresses, multi axle trailers can reduce, but not eliminate the increase in Interply Shear experienced with their tires by increasing tire inflation which lowers the tire slip angle.

This leads to the suggestion that any type tire will see lower stresses with increased inflation in multi-axle trailer application.

So the conclusion ends up that setting the Cold Inflation Pressure to the tire sidewall max pressure is a strongly recommended policy.

So only in your opinion then you might suggest setting tire pressures to the max. CIP or the coaches suggested CIP label in the coach?


iPad using iRV2 - RV Forum
__________________
tmw188 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 11:56 AM   #27
Senior Member
Commercial Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Akron, Ohio
Posts: 1,394
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmw188 View Post
So only in your opinion then you might suggest setting tire pressures to the max. CIP or the coaches suggested CIP label in the coach?


iPad using iRV2 - RV Forum
Note I said "multi axle trailers". My opinion is based on data, facts and 40 years of experience examining failed tires by the thousands.

Motorhomes and other motorized vehicles have different guidelines as their tire stress loading is different.

I have over 40 posts relating to inflation because people keep asking the same question over and over or do not think about the background I try and provide or want to argue about what the correct CIP should be.. You only may want to review the newest 3 or 4 and I think you will learn enough to know if you need to review them all.

Trailers are different than Motorhomes so note the different information
__________________
Retired Design & Quality Tire Eng. Read my tire blog RVTireSafety.NET to learn more about RV tires, valves & wheels. Read THIS post on why Tires Fail
Tireman9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2016, 12:27 PM   #28
Senior Member
 
Mr_D's Avatar
 
Solo Rvers Club
iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 27,162
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tireman9 View Post
Yes if parking for the winter inflate your tires to the tire sidewall max psi.
Since tires for heavy duty rigs don't have a maximum pressure on the sidewall what pressure would you use?
__________________

__________________
2009 45' Magna 630 w/Cummins ISX 650 HP/1950 Lbs Ft
Charter Good Sam Lifetime Member, FMCA, SKP
RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '14 CR-V
Mr_D is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
tires



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Protecting Tires Electra 225 MH-General Discussions & Problems 17 01-30-2016 03:35 PM
Protecting tires from sun ??? Renden Newmar Owner's Forum 20 09-18-2010 03:01 PM
Protecting front of Motorhome in Alaska jeeprubi MH-General Discussions & Problems 15 03-14-2009 03:44 PM
Protecting gel coat Dryheat Excel Owner's Forum 5 05-15-2007 07:45 PM
Bankruptcy and protecting the fulltime RV artro iRV2.com General Discussion 4 08-10-2006 04:53 PM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:40 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.