Traded my 2013 Apex 268 for a 2014 Arctic Fox 25p today. Apex was spotless but wanted a better floor plan and winter camping capability. Plus we never used the Apex's bunk beds. The Arctic Fox seems to be very well made. Much more floor space, bigger fridge, bigger stove, bigger hot water heater, etc. the only dislike is the retractable plastic sheeting shower curtain. I think I'll be replacing it with a bowed curtain rod. I think I could use a residential rod and curtain and save some money. Can't wait to get to a campsite with it!