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Old 08-04-2011, 07:12 PM   #29
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We're new at this whole grey/black tank stuff too (moved up from a pop-up this year). I've got to say I was pleasantly surprised that by just adding plenty of water (thanks to folks here at iRv2), we didn't have any odor or problems when it came to cleaning out the black tank. We were out for 3 weeks and not a sniff of bad stuff, even when it was 103. At one site we didn't empty the tank for 3 1/2 days and no clogs/plugs or odor.

My father-in-law who's had travel trailers for the last 10 years kept telling us we were crazy and the smell will knock us out after a few days.

Don't know if the newer units are better than the old ones or what, but just using water works great for us.

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Nope, no difference in the new or old ones. My family has been using the commode in our RV's for 50 years with no issues following the procedures I outlined earlier. Still not buying the regular tissue and no chemicals routine but the 'Geo" water softener method sounds interesting, weather or not it's cheaper, more effective and or easier than my method is a toss up. But I wholehearted agree in keeping those tanks spotless and I believe through many years of experience, that a regime similar to either mine or the Geo system will give you a trouble free RV bathroom.
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Here's another vote for no chemicals and plenty of water. I used to use chemicals untill found my self out of chemical one week . After that, no chemicals. I don't have an odor problem either. I did have a tank flusher installed in my black tank and use it every time I dump. I also use a clear elbow on the valve outlet so I can see when the tank is clean. I also add about 2-3 gallons of water to the tank when I set up so no solids stick. I use regular toilet tissue (no scented brands) and by the time I dump, everything is disolved, even the solids.
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Old 08-05-2011, 03:53 PM   #31
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Our neighbors who are very experienced rv'ers told us to used the odor packets to one gallon of water. then use a small trash can for the toilet paper since we women go more than men.
My husband and I just got back from 8 days dry camping. We had no problems. We dumped the black water tank. closed the black water tank. Opened the grey water to let some of the water in the black tank. Then we reopened the black tank value and opened the gray water tank. Worked perfectly. Also we rinsed the toilet out.
I used recyled water from baths and dishes to flush toilet. Didn't want to waste good water.
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Our neighbors who are very experienced rv'ers told us to used the odor packets to one gallon of water. then use a small trash can for the toilet paper since we women go more than men.
My husband and I just got back from 8 days dry camping. We had no problems. We dumped the black water tank. closed the black water tank. Opened the grey water to let some of the water in the black tank. Then we reopened the black tank value and opened the gray water tank. Worked perfectly. Also we rinsed the toilet out.
I used recyled water from baths and dishes to flush toilet. Didn't want to waste good water.
The trash can for the paper was my Dad's method as well. DW didn't go for that so we went to the Theford paper and been doing that for 14 years now.
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The trash can for the paper was my Dad's method as well. DW didn't go for that so we went to the Theford paper and been doing that for 14 years now.
We have used reg paper we get at Costco. No problem for 20 yrs and no chemicals. There's been times when we were in the TT for up to3 mos. at a time.
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I may have missed it, but I don't remember seeing anyone that will only use RV paper posting that they tried regular paper and had problems with it.
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I may have missed it, but I don't remember seeing anyone that will only use RV paper posting that they tried regular paper and had problems with it.
I don't think you missed it. I can't remember ever seeing a post anywhere claiming that standard toilet paper actually caused a problem with their black tank.

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I don't think you missed it. I can't remember ever seeing a post anywhere claiming that standard toilet paper actually caused a problem with their black tank.

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I think in the past, maybe 15/20years ago, there was some brands that could cause problems. Perhaps the paper manufactors heard about it made changes.
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The "Special RV Paper" is a waste of money and is over priced. The RV stuff is just single ply. I took some double ply, separated the plies, and put a sheet of each RV and regular toilet paper in a cup of water. The next morning, I stirred both and they both dissolved the same. Never had a back-up or blockage.
In case some didn't read the whole thread, I'm re-posting this. You RV only peeps, try this and post your results. Use two separate cups with or without chemicals. Don't label the cups and see if you an tell the difference.
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I think it might be tank size and use level that affects the choices made. I came up through TT's and Class C's before getting a DP. With smaller tanks and not using the system full time, solids and odor control are more of an issue than with very large tanks being used full time in large DP's and 5ers.

All I can say is that my system works for me. There is little incentive to experiment further since our current procedures give us a fully functional bathroom with no buildup or odor issues at a reasonable cost. The tank is squeaky clean between uses and dumping is not an unpleasant chore.

Since the OP was concerned with buildup and others don't even use their facilities for similar fears, I think following my or Geo's system should alleviate those fears. After following those procedures with success, then a newbie might consider experimenting with no chemicals or normal tissue to see if those variables work equally well for them if they desire.
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rv paper is expensive and also chemicals. Money wasted in my book. also most full timers.
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I think it might be tank size and use level that affects the choices made. I came up through TT's and Class C's before getting a DP. With smaller tanks and not using the system full time, solids and odor control are more of an issue than with very large tanks being used full time in large DP's and 5ers.

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That's a very good point. I've often wondered why black tank dumping and maintenance is made out to be such an ugly task but I've never had to deal with a tank smaller than my current 57 gallons. After dumping and rinsing I usually add close to 20 gallons of fresh water and then dump every few days so that can be a lot different than having to manage a tank of half that size.

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The most common size for black/gray is 40/40 from what I have seen.
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The most common size for black/gray is 40/40 from what I have seen.
I think that varies widely from unit to unit. We started with 22/39 in our first Aerolite 824FBR TT and now we have 57/81 in our Meridian 34Y. I've seen Prevost's with 86 gal black tanks. Big difference in convenience.
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