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Old 10-30-2012, 02:24 PM   #1
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Rookie mistake (never trust friend)

Well I believe I have learned a big lesson and not to trust a good friend whom informs me he knows electrical. SITUATION: Setting up a box at my residence to plug in TT, informed buddy that I needed 110-30 amp service out to trailer, and showed him the writing by the plug that says it all in black and white. Dug the trench for 100 feet and layed out the wire in conduit, all he had to do was hook up the box by the TT and inside the main breaker box. I had to go on travel upon my return he called and said everything is good to go, just plug in and you should be set. Without checking I plugged in the TT, opened the camper to see what worked. Microwave was not on, no power, TV would not turn on, turned air on ran for a few seconds then tripped breaker, what in the world, so I turned on the fire place and sparks and popping noise, turned off went outside unplugged went into main breaker and oh my goodness, (few other choice words), YES he had 240 hooked up. I changed to a regular 30 amp single pole, pluged up the TT and started to see what was wrong, microwave no power, TV no power, fire place no power, hooked to a 110 extention cord no power, believe they are gone unless someone knows something else. Ac and furnce work all electrical outlets work, second TV works.

Question: I am not a electrician, but what else should I check, exspecially in the fusebox? How about the converter? It seems like the battery is running everything when I plug the TT in, slides wants to run on the battery etc. All outlets run when plugged in and off when unplugged.

I know I made a huge mistake, but be easy, first time camper, and now will be asking lots of questions I pray that I did not blow everthing up; will take all comments because this should not had happened -

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Old 10-30-2012, 03:03 PM   #2
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Friend fried your smalls. Looks like you still have the unit. Lucky you.
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:16 PM   #3
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Welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear of your troubles, but as you said, it's a learning experience. Maybe another lesson here is to invest in a good Surge Protector which will protect you from mis-wired power as well as nasty lightning strikes, etc.

Best of luck.

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Old 10-30-2012, 03:40 PM   #4
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Best lesson is to never trust an electrical hook-up period. Regardless of who hooked it up. In this case, I'm betting your friend simply forgot you asked for 120vac, and assumed, as most electricians do, that you want a 'normal' 220v 30amp. If they do not regularly wire campgrounds, this is the only 30 amp they know.

While your friend hooked up the wrong voltage, the fault for this is mostly yours..
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:13 PM   #5
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what probably got fried , or at least took out the internal fuse if it has one , was any appliance, lights that were on at the time. microwave, tvs, battery chargers, are usually on even when your not using them. sorry to hear about your problem. homes haven't used 30 amp 110volt circuits for a long time. back then in a duplex one apt. would get one phase of 30 amp 110 volt to run the whole apt. and the other apt. would get the other phase.
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This sort of thing happens all the time when even real electricians confuse a dryer plug for an RV plug. When that happens, smoke gets out.
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Welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear of your troubles, but as you said, it's a learning experience. Maybe another lesson here is to invest in a good Surge Protector which will protect you from mis-wired power as well as nasty lightning strikes, etc.

Best of luck.

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Sorry you are starting with problems, and welcome to the forum. I think Ricko gave you the right advice. Never ever trust a electric plug even in the best CG. invest in a GOOD Surge Protector and even in a test meter. I always double check before I plug in. My MH has a built in surge protector and I use one at the pole to make sure. The wrong wing can fry everything in you Camper. Good luck! And don't be too hard on youself, everyone makes mistakes, some just want admit it. Happy Camping.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:24 PM   #8
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sputter--- when you fixed the house wiring since it was wired 30 amp 220volt (correct wiring for 220 volt is 2 colored hot wires and a green ground) . if this is the way the electrican wired it make sure you tape both sides of the wire you made a neutral, white to make sure no one else makes a mistake. people get sloppy and look at colors when puting things back together. (was a lead electrican. one of my electricans working on a remodel had taken apart 8 boxs during the day. end of day turned circuit on and pow. had to open up all of the boxs to find his mistake. earlier electrical used green for hot on one run, box to box, and while taking things apart he didn't take time to tape correct color to wire. yup he got yelled at).
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sputter--- when you fixed the house wiring since it was wired 30 amp 220volt (correct wiring for 220 volt is 2 colored hot wires and a green ground) . if this is the way the electrican wired it make sure you tape both sides of the wire you made a neutral, white to make sure no one else makes a mistake. people get sloppy and look at colors when puting things back together. (was a lead electrican. one of my electricans working on a remodel had taken apart 8 boxs during the day. end of day turned circuit on and pow. had to open up all of the boxs to find his mistake. earlier electrical used green for hot on one run, box to box, and while taking things apart he didn't take time to tape correct color to wire. yup he got yelled at).
Used green for hot? Color blind or high??
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believe it or not i know electricans that are color blind. on the old two wire outlets lots of (when you're looking at the outlets right blade power left blade neutral) you never knew until you tested which terminal was hot. the lazy guys didn't care. going thru a house they'ed switch back and forth.
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One club I never joined was the "I plugged into 240 volt" club.. Sorry you had to join.

Search the forum and you will find dozens of thereads from folks who did as you have done.

Possible damage list includes

Air contitioner you turned on (May have survived, may have burned out)
Microwave
Radios, Televisions, Converters,

Fridge and water heater (Again this is a may or may not)

Automatic transfer switch (Depending on if you have one and it's model)
GFCI outlet

Microwave.

And any other 120 volt device which was turned on and drawing power or which turns on with a remote

Your 12 volt devices (like the furnace) should be ok.
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I'm sorry this had to happen to you. It's too late to help you, but for anyone else who may be reading this, the lesson is that BEFORE you plug an RV into a newly-wired outlet (or, taking it to extremes, any unfamiliar outlet), it's highly recommended to use a voltmeter to check across what should be the hot (L1) and neutral terminals. If the electrician has wired it correctly, it should read 120VAC. If, on the other hand, the electrician has wired it like a dryer outlet (which happens far too many times), it will read 240VAC.

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Hey, I resemble that remark (Color blind, though not nearly that bad, I can tell the difference between black, white, green and red, also the difference between copper and silver colored screws (and green).


To the Original poster: Yours is the latest in a whole string of such threads. I though I'd posted in this thread earleyer

Damage from 240 volt may include any of the following.

Radios, Televisions and such (The ones that work of 120 volt, the dash radio is safe)
Any eppliance turned on (The air conditioner) (May or may not have burned out).
Fridge and water heater (Heat elements and control relays, again may or may not, also the sensors on the fridge that tell it to switch to A/C that is the control board.. NOTE: If the fridge board is damaged, consider Dinosaur board replacements, higher quality, lower price)

Microwave,

Converter

Some Automatic Transfer Switches (others do not care)

Surge Protectors (Power guards, which by the way will protect you should you ever do it again).

ANY device that turns on with a remote (DVD player, CD player, VCR, Any device with a remote EXCEPT a Carrier Air V air conditioner which is off (The control system is 12 volt and thus protected)

And.. The converter. (If you have an inverter of the in-line type,, that is on the list too)

Some hardware is smart enough to protect itself,, But most.. Does not.
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I have nothing more to add but to say "ouch".

that is all...
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