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Old 06-05-2013, 05:17 PM   #1
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My wife and I are rookies at camping, now we are baby boomers. We are looking to get a zinger crossroad 27rl, and would like to know if dry weight is 6238lbs should I add another 1,0000 lbs?
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Old 06-05-2013, 06:15 PM   #2
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I'm not sure I completely understand what you are asking. What is the type of camping you plan of doing, weekend trips, week long trips, or full timing? Depending on what you have planned and what you might take with you, you could add 1000lbs pretty fast.

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It all depends on what your tow vehicle is and what the max. rated weight of the trailer is.
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Old 06-05-2013, 08:10 PM   #4
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I'm not sure I completely understand what you are asking. What is the type of camping you plan of doing, weekend trips, week long trips, or full timing? Depending on what you have planned and what you might take with you, you could add 1000lbs pretty fast.
I have aTundra with towing capacity 10,100 lbs. we haven't bought the camper yet, however the dry weight before options are around 6400 lbs. I wish manufactures would give total weight with options and fluid. The sales manager said with my truck there would be no problem with the 32' trailer with that factory weight. We will be staying in the camper for 3 months, then maybe to Florida for winter.
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Old 06-05-2013, 08:24 PM   #5
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My brother had the 5.7L 4x4 turndra. I think it's rated for 10.5k. He tows a short toy-hauler that can reach about 8000lbs. No problems with it on anti-sway and a good braking system.
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I'll chime in with what I understand and, granted, I'm just learning a few things about TTs and towing myself but have had several motorhomes and have one currently. Others can correct me where needed.

If you're looking at a new model, here is the spec' page for the 27RL:

ZT27RL - CrossRoads RV

You'll notice that the GVWR is 7,850 lbs. Then you'll see it has a dry weight of 6,520 lbs.

Since Cargo Carrying Capacity (CCC) --which I assume you meant when you referred to 1,000 lbs.-- is calculated by subtracting the GVWR from the dry weight including the weight of the full fresh water tank, the full propane tank, and the weight of passengers calculated by seating positions, the trailer you've referenced seems to indicate that the CCC will be 1,330 lbs.

Subtract 6,520 from 7,850 you'll get 1,330 lbs.

Then you'll notice that it says the carrying capacity is 1,596 lbs. but that evidently if factoring in the weight of the items mentioned, i.e.the weight of the full fresh water tank or the weight of the full propane tank.

Remember, the GVWR is the rating that the manufacturer gives to the unit which tells you what the total weight should not exceed when loaded with everything. The GVWR is assigned and will not change.

Your carrying capacity is the variable and it seems in this case, should not exceed 1,330 lbs. to be within the GVWR of 7,850 lbs.

So, we know that no matter what, if you load your trailer correctly and stay under the CCC and therefore, below the GVWR of the trailer (7,850 lbs.) and your Tundra is rated to tow 10,000 lbs, then you are substantially under its towing capacity.

However, your Tundra should list a GCWR or the Gross COMBINED Weight Rating which is the total that the two vehicles together should not exceed. On my truck, I've already looked up all three, the GVWR, the GCWR, and the maximum trailer weight as a starting point.

The next thing you'll have to determine is at what weight you can load your Tundra and still be within its GCWR. I'm thinking it will be within limits but you might check just in case.

Lots of stuff that has to be checked to make sure you're within safe weights, eh? I'm just going through all this myself with the trailer I'm thinking of towing so we can learn together.

And, we haven't even touched hitch ratings and tongue weights, etc. *ack*

I'm sure the nice folks on this forum will help us out and we'll both become comfortable with the weight "rules" of towing so that we will be safe when out there on the road.

Good luck.

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Adding 1,000lbs would be about what the average person takes. With just the wife and I we pack around12-1300lbs. But we like to take extra things that we may or may not need every trip. When I look at RV shows for weights I look at the door sticker as that's the weight it leaves the factory. I then add my 1200lbs to that. I really don't care about the TT's GVW cause it can vary. For instance our current 5'er has a 4315lb CCC. I will never load that much in it. However if I looked at the 5'ers GVW it's 11,000+ lbs. Well then you would say your truck you wouldn't be able to tow it. But since it has a dry sticker UVW weight of 7185lbs and adding my 1200lbs I have a unit that weighs 8385lbs. Now it's inline with a truck with a 10,000lb tow rating. The only reason I check the units GVW is to see if it is built strong enough to carry the added weight. The one you're looking at only has a CCC of 1330lbs. I would be concerned that you will max out the TT and that's going to stress things like springs, axles and tires faster. My advice is to look for a good cushion of at least 2000+lbs of CCC. That way your not maxing out the TT when you load it up.

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