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Old 03-27-2012, 11:51 AM   #1
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Short-term fix for a travel trailer

Hello.

I am very new to RV-ing and my head is spinning. I have a quick question about moving my TT around until I purchase a 3/4 ton truck sometime in the next 2-10 months.

I have a 33 ft. Keystone Cougar X-Lite 29RBK TT and I currently have only a 03 Chevy Tahoe (5.3 L and 3.73). I also have a weight dist. hitch, anti-sway and brake controls.

I only plan on using it in the very immediate area, probably no more than 30-40 miles distance except for 2-3 trips that are around 120 miles away.
All travel will be done using country rounds so I can keep my speed around 45-50 MPH.

Will this work AND be relatively safe for the time being.

Thank you for any all responses.

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CWA, my son pulled a 31' TT with a suburban a while till he could get his PU. Used on short trips only, 100 mi or less. Very wind intolerance though. Beat the hell out of him. His trailor is 7500lb. Hard on the tranny tho. Made about 6 trips.
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Old 03-27-2012, 12:35 PM   #3
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My 32ft couger has a dry weight of 9000lbs. With water, food and all the other needed items, I am running around 11500. Your tahoe is a 1/2 ton and most likely has a tow rate of 6000lbs or so. Your hitch, frame, and drive train is not heavy enough. Can you pull it yes, should you NO. On country roads towing almost twice what you should you are going to hurt someone. take the leep and get a DRW 1 ton.
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:19 PM   #4
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I did look and my TT weighs 6500 lbs dry. I can tow up to 7,700 lbs. I do have the tow package as well. I do however tend to agree with a definitely required need to upgrade to at least a 3/4 ton truck. Thank you for your comments.
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As long as you pack your gear light (Really Light) I think you will be fine. Just take it slow and steady. You are going to be cutting it close though.
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I did look and my TT weighs 6500 lbs dry. I can tow up to 7,700 lbs. I do have the tow package as well. I do however tend to agree with a definitely required need to upgrade to at least a 3/4 ton truck. Thank you for your comments.
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I have a 33 ft. Keystone Cougar X-Lite 29RBK TT ...
GVWR = 8,200 pounds
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and I currently have only a 03 Chevy Tahoe (5.3 L and 3.73).
Tow rating = 7,400 pounds
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Will this work AND be relatively safe for the time being.
Only if you have empty holding and water tanks in the trailer, not much of anything in the trailer, and nobody and nothing in the Tahoe except a skinny driver.

The tow rating is the "max" trailer weight you can tow if there are no passengers or cargo in the Tahoe. So it's doable if you have other people ride in a seperate vehicle and use the Tahoe to tow the almost empty trailer and nothing else.

But load the Tahoe up with passengers and gear and tools and the normal stuff, and you'll be severely overloaded over the GVWR of the Tahoe. Load the trailer so it grosses much over the "dry" weight of 6,500 pounds and you'll exceed the GCWR of the Tahoe.
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After listening to what you all have said I am going out to buy 3/4-ton pickup. Thank you all for the valuable advice. Here are the ones I am considering:

07 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Crew Cab/Short Box 6.6 L Duramax diesel

07 GMC 2500HD Crew Cab/Long Box 6.0 L V-8 gas

01 Ford F-250 Crew Cab/Short Box 7.3 L Powerstroke diesel

Any thoughts?
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After listening to what you all have said I am going out to buy 3/4-ton pickup. Thank you all for the valuable advice. Here are the ones I am considering:

07 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Crew Cab/Short Box 6.6 L Duramax diesel

07 GMC 2500HD Crew Cab/Long Box 6.0 L V-8 gas

01 Ford F-250 Crew Cab/Short Box 7.3 L Powerstroke diesel

Any thoughts?
I'd choose one of the diesels. I have an 02 F350 7.3L powerstroke, so I'm biased, but that 07 Duramax will probably be a sweet ride too. IMO, the 7.3L is the last good diesel Ford produced. I'm almost to 1/4 million miles on mine, and still pulling like it was new.
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After listening to what you all have said I am going out to buy 3/4-ton pickup. Thank you all for the valuable advice. Here are the ones I am considering:

07 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Crew Cab/Short Box 6.6 L Duramax diesel

07 GMC 2500HD Crew Cab/Long Box 6.0 L V-8 gas

01 Ford F-250 Crew Cab/Short Box 7.3 L Powerstroke diesel

Any thoughts?
You saying the Chevy and GMC cost the same as the Ford?
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I think the 2001 F350 your considering should be able to tow 11,500.
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The Ford is a good $8000 less than the 6.6 Duramax. The Ford also has 170,000 likes on it. The Duramax is running at 140,000. This seems to like both engines are rather fresh yet. I have already forgotten about the 6.0 L gasoline powered GMC 2500HD. It is the most expensive of the three main options.
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I may be biased with my 06 duramax but the Allison transmission in he chev is worth the cost. The transmission is head and shoulders above the competitors, IMO. From my experience with both ford and chev diesels, the chev will get better mileage than the ford.
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I think the 2001 F350 your considering should be able to tow 11,500.
It's an F-250, not an F-350 SRW, and it will be overloaded with a 5er that weighs more than about 8,000 pounds. Plenty pf power to tow 11,500 pounds with the 20k GCWR, but the GVWR will probably be exceeded by over 1,000 pounds.

My '99.5 F-250 CrewCab diesel was overloaded over the GVWR of the vehicle with my 8,000-pound 5er. The problem is the GVWR is only 8,800 pounds, and my 4x2 weighed almost 8,000 when wet and loaded for the road, with one adult passenger, a small Pomeranian puppydog, a floor jack, cooler full of cool and a toolbox full of tools. Same pickup but 4x4 weighs about 400 pounds more, so it can't tow much more than a rowboat without being overloaded.

The first F-250 diesel that could handle an 11,500 pound 5er without busting the hitch weight limits was a 2005, which had the 6.0L diesel. It has a GVWR of 10,000 pounds so it can handle up to about 2,000 pounds of hitch weight.

The GM and MOPAR SRW diesels of the same years have the same problems of plenty of power and torque but not enough payload capacity to handle the hitch weight of an 11.5k 5er without exceeding the GVWR of the tow vehicle - especially when you use the meager payload capacity for the heavy diesel engine, CrewCab body and 4x4 drivetrain.

If you want a 2001 F-250 that can handle 2,000 pounds of hitch weight without being overloaded, then find a regular cab V-10 4x2.
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SmokeyWren,

I own a 33ft Cougar X-lite 29RBK. It is a TT, not a 5th wheel. At its maximum it can weigh 8200 lbs. There seems to be a bit of confusion. I have decided to wait with the TT in the drive until I can determine the actual needs. Thank you all for your input.

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