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Old 07-04-2012, 11:38 AM   #43
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All I can say is go and see if you can hear them run. Then come back and tell me why you have a Honda
I have two 2000W Champion 73536i generators. I have no problem standing next to them and holding a conversation in a normal tone of voice. While I would not claim to have a calibrated ear, to me they sound just the same as the Hondas that I have listened to. The noise level spec is the same 53 dba on both Honda and Champion.

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The noise level spec is the same 53 dba on both Honda and Champion.
At what distance for each?

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Old 07-05-2012, 12:30 AM   #45
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At what distance for each?

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The champion is rated at 23'. I can't find the distance rating for the Honda. What I can say is that I own two of the Champions and I have heard plenty of the Hondas. To my (admittedly uncalibrated) ear, they sound about the same. I can stand next to either brand and carry on a conversation in a normal tone of voice.

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I found a refereence to Mayberry's site with a full load sound of 59 dBA at 7m which is 23'.Honda eu2000i Generator

Unloaded is 53dBA....looks like Champion coped the successful Honda.

Wise Equipment has the standard EU2000 for $899.

So running two in parallel at full load the total sound rating, you add 3dBA to add the two together or parallel full load is 62 dBA. and the unloaded is 56 dBA...all at 7m distance.

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The sweet taste of money saved is soon spoiled by the bitterness of poor quality.

When I go camping I want stuff to work. I don't want to spend my vacation days trying to fix my generator or anything else.


That's why I spent 1400 on my Yamaha 2400. I know it will start 99.9% of the time. If I do have problems I can get parts and service at any Yamaha dealer. It also came with a 3 year warranty.

It was a easy choice for me.
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Plenty of contractors run their job sites with the big noisy Champion generators and have no problems with the quality. Why would you assume that the quality of their inverter generators should be poor?

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Does anyone know how long these small Honda's, Yamaha's, and Champ's expected to last? 500 hours or better?
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Does anyone know how long these small Honda's, Yamaha's, and Champ's expected to last? 500 hours or better?
Check the Honda EU2000 Yahoo group. The Hondas are designed to run for a loooooong time. Their is required maintenance
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We run our a/c with a Yahama 2400i generator. Expensive, but light and extremely reliable.

However, we only turn it on a few times a year because we get all our power from solar. If you can live without a/c, solar is an awesome way to go. It works silently, gets to work before you wake up in the morning, keeps working while you're out hiking or shopping or filling the truck with gas, and can handle everything in the rig (laptops, microwave, hairdryer, tv) except the a/c.

For weekends and short trips you can get a good 140 watt setup for about $750. We actually lived with a system of that size for a full year (no micro or hair dryer)... it was fine from April to November but was a little skinny for the short winter days when the sun is low in the sky.

A full-fledged "full-timer" system that is like having electrical hookups all the time is about $3k...
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Here's a link to a Vermont store but you can check other Champion generators out on the page also. There's another link on these forums about the Champion brand and folks seem to really like them. While Honda generators are nice you're paying extra for the name. Hope this helps http://www.tractorsupply.com/gas-diesel-generators/champion-power-equipment-trade-3500w-4000w-portable-generator-4434023?zoneMarketInfo=2-16&reqUrl=%2Fgas-diesel-generators%2Fchampion-power-equipment-trade-3500w-4000w-portable-generator-4434023&langId=-1&storeId=10551&storeCity=city%2C+state&catalogId= 10001&storeZip=05468&ddkey=http:WcmDisplay
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Does anyone know how long these small Honda's, Yamaha's, and Champ's expected to last? 500 hours or better?
I would say well into the 1000's of hours with proper care.
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Proper care would be just take care of it like oil & filters. I still change my oil in my truck every 3000 miles
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Not that im knocking on the honda generators becuase they sound great, but you are also paying for the name thats true. You would think the honda 4 stroke motocross bikes would last as long as thier compeditors, the valves are shot in 40 hours. 600 dollar repair. It happens to all of them. And thats just the start of my issues with my honda i have had for only 4 years.
I misqouted the other day, the champion 1800 max generator says 65 decibles on the box. Ill be breaking it in tommorrow and report on how loud it is from certain distances. And it has a 2 year warrenty not 1.
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Here's a link to a Vermont store but you can check other Champion generators out on the page also. There's another link on these forums about the Champion brand and folks seem to really like them. While Honda generators are nice you're paying extra for the name. Hope this helps http://www.tractorsupply.com/gas-diesel-generators/champion-power-equipment-trade-3500w-4000w-portable-generator-4434023?zoneMarketInfo=2-16&reqUrl=%2Fgas-diesel-generators%2Fchampion-power-equipment-trade-3500w-4000w-portable-generator-4434023&langId=-1&storeId=10551&storeCity=city%2C+state&catalogId= 10001&storeZip=05468&ddkey=http:WcmDisplay
Wow, 68 dBA at 23' (7m). I presume that is the no load rating since they do not say otherwise. The Honda is 53 dBA at 7m as a single and 56 dBA when in parallel. As I had noted, each 3 dBA increase is a doubling of sound power level.

So going from 56 dBA to 68 dBA is an increase of 12 dBA or 3 x 4. So that is an increase of 16 times (2 to the 4th power) the sound power level. I hope the math is right, I have not had my coffee this morning.

The two Honda are less noisy in a full load state. Believe me, your neighbors will notice the difference.

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