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Old 07-21-2012, 06:06 PM   #1
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?Towing Vehicle & TT recommendations

I hope this is acceptable ... I copied a post I put in Newbies Intro here.


It's Newbie KewlKristen Again ... !!??!!

Oh my ... I hope this is normal ... I now have so much information, I'm confused! LOL!!

I know I need to take my time, but I'm anticipating hitting the road for the first time within 30-60 days! As we all know, time flies!

I appreciate all the input I received on my first "newbie" post. I gave all suggestions careful consideration and researched them all. What I think feels comfortable for me, is pulling a trailer between 20-25 feet; anything smaller would be too small and anything bigger might make me a bit uneasy being my first trailer.

Even before this cross-country traveling idea came to mind, I was considering replacing my Jeep Cherokee. I kinda wanted something not more than 5 years old with a V8. I had been considering a Chevy Avalanche or Honda Ridgeline. I need more than a truck cab or even an extension as my sister and/or my oldest son may accompany me on a portion of the trip. I would want more space even without the traveling, because my dog, Bruno, needs space to be comfortable. (He's a rottenlab ... rottweiller/lab mix. My husband came up with that; I love it cuz Bruno is rotten! LOL)

So here's my questions:

- Has anyone towed a travel trailer with their Avalanche or Ridgeline; if so how did it go?

- Between another vehicle and trailer, I would like to keep my costs between $25-30k. (Estimating trailer to be $10-15k; thus vehicle should be between $15-20k. So if you have any suggestion regarding a vehicle and/or manufacturer/model trailer, please share. I'm ready! {Meditating to clear my mind of the previous overload .. LOL! Ohmmmmmmmm.}

I'll continue to research as well, but my neck, shoulders, eyes are also feeling my pain. LOL!

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Old 07-21-2012, 08:28 PM   #2
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At 25 feet I say get a 7.3 power stroke ford f250 as far as the tt there are alot of good ones . the pulling power is not the only thing you need to look at. Think about stopping. If the brakes aren't big enough then your in danger. But make shore you like the layout. If your going to boondock make shore it has big holding tanks and a good gen. If not thats not important. With a big dog look for one with a slide. Also you will find it is easier to pull a 5er then a bumper pull. Easier to back up. Hope this helps
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:54 PM   #3
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Might be a little older than your looking for, but for my money you can't beat an Excursion Diesel.
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:19 PM   #4
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You will definitly like a 7.3l powerstroke, great reliability. If you want an a suv, the excursion with the 7.3l would be a good choice. You'll definitly want something bigger than an avalanche or ridgeline.
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- Has anyone towed a travel trailer with their Avalanche or Ridgeline; if so how did it go?

Ridgeline is a wonderful lightweight pickup, but it's tow rating and payload rating limits you to a tent trailer if you don't want to exceed any of the manufacturer's weight limits. Your biggest limit is the GVWR of the Ridgeline - no extra payload for much hitch weight.


The Avalance is a half-ton pickup, but you'll still be limited to only the smallest travel trailers (TT). My 2012 F-150 with the towing pkg (but not the Max Tow Pkg) is slightly overloaded with my 19.6' (inside length) TT that weighs about 5,000 pounds and has a GVWR of 5,600 pounds.

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- Between another vehicle and trailer, I would like to keep my costs between $25-30k. (Estimating trailer to be $10-15k; thus vehicle should be between $15-20k. So if you have any suggestion regarding a vehicle and/or manufacturer/model trailer, please share. I'm ready!



Our 2012 Skyline Nomad Joey 196 is perfect for two old folks. It gets a bit crowded with our two dogs (border collie and Pomeranian) but we "make do". Walk-around queen-size bed, dinette that will seat 4 in a pinch, seperate bath/shower so you don't have to shower whiile sitting on the pottie, adequate size closet, roomy "basement" for stuff, and of course the normal storage spaces under the bed and under the dinette seats. It has all the normal RV aminities such as reefer, microwave, hot water heater, holding tanks, optional wall-mounted TV with both antenna and cable input.

If you have only yourself and Bruno to worry about, or even with one more adult, then that one would be good for you. I paid a hair over $12,000 for it, brand new, in February. Check out RVWhosalers in Ohio for rock-bottom prices, then ask your local Skyline dealer to match those prices. He won't, but he might come close.




Nomad Recreational Vehicles by Skyline

As for the tow vehicle, some half-ton pickups can tow a 25-foot TT without being oveloaded, but most cannot. You need one with a big V8 engine and the heavy duty tow pkg. If you get a Ford F-150 in the $15-$20k range, then you want the 5.4L engine, towing pkg, and HD payload pkg. Ignore all the others with lesser engines or without the HD Payload pkg or the towing pkg. The HD Payload pkg is rare, but they're out there, so insist on one.

I don't know much about Dog and Government Motors, so you're on your own if you go there. But they claim to have models comparable to the Fords.

If you find the right half-ton pickup with the right engine and towing equipment, then you don't need a heavier duty pickup for a 28-foot TT. But I towed an 8,000 pound 5er with my '99.5 F-250 diesel pickup for over 11 years and 100,000 miles, and thoroughly enjoyed every mile. If you could find my old 7.3L, that would be a great pickup for you, even though it now has over 200,000 miles on it. But I wouldn't recommend it for the same reason I sold it - pickups over 10 years old and over 200,000 miles, regardless of condition, are simply not reliable enough for me to take a 4,000-mile road trip in one.

BTW, I just returned from a 4,0000 mile road trip in this rig:
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A Honda Ridgeline doesn't have a V8 option....and they're more or less a glorified car (literally, they're based on the front wheel drive Camry platform, with the same 3.5 V6). An Avalanche on the other hand is a solid choice. My friend pulls a 26ft Chaparral cuddy-cabin boat with his, no problem. He has an 06 1500, but actually has a lot in common with 3/4 silverados, including HD brakes. The only different is the hubs/axles are 1/2 ton issue.


20-25ft trailer is still small enough that you have lots of choices as far as trucks go. You don't need to shell out big bucks for nice diesel, or even to settle with a higher mileage truck, just so you can afford a diesel powertrain. A 5.7 4x4 Dodge Ram will pull that truck with ease, and you'll enjoy a nice blend of power (345-390hp & 380-407lbs torque, depending on the year), and livable fuel economy, thanks to MDS (which cuts power when not needed). A Ram with the Off Road Group or Trailer Tow group will serve you well. Both are an easy find. Plus you can say "yeah, it's got a Hemi".

I've driven all of the engines the big 3 have to offer for large 1/2 ton & small 3/4 ton from 09-prior, and Dodge's seems to have the best blend of pulling power and daily-driver responsiveness. GM's 5.3 only makes about 315hp/335 lbs torque, much less than than Dodge, and the Ford only 300hp (365lbs tq)....ekk!

Ford guys will tell you Ford is your truck, GM guys the same.....but bias aside, there's a reason why I see so many Dodges pulling TTs now.

If my old Class C motorhome could haul its 12,000 lb a$$ around just fine with a little 360 cui V8, a V8 4x4 half ton will serve you well. Go for one with trailer group though. Brakes have come a long way too, and with a 20ft trailer, trailer brakes are a must, because regardless of what the truck, you can overwork your truck's brakes. My .2 cents
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Honda Ridgeline doesn't have a V8 option....and they're more or less a glorified car (literally, they're based on the front wheel drive Camry platform)

Don't tell Toyota someone's stealing their chassis...;o)
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Ummm....not that it matters, but the Honda Ridgeline shares powertrains with the Honda Odyssey. I kinda doubt Toyota is shipping this stuff to Honda.

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Ummm....not that it matters, but the Honda Ridgeline shares powertrains with the Honda Odyssey.
Oops! Make that the Honda Pilot, not the Odyssey.

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I meant Accord, not Camry hahaha....not that there's much difference lol. Pilot etc is all based on the Camry


Toyota and Honda both make some pretty vanilla cars imo. Easy to get them mixed up (this coming from a car guy, whose brother worked for Honda)
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