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Old 06-30-2019, 04:45 PM   #15
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Take a look at the AirStream Basecamp trailer.

When I had a bad back I found a great air mattress that I could pump up easy and to a hardness that my back felt great. I sleep like a baby. I can boondock for 10 days and stay clean using buckets of water to take sponge baths.

I still like the off road truck with bed cap and a really good air mattress and sleeping bag.

Not sure what specific truck I would recommend but the list would include Ram Rebel, Ford F-150 FX4, Ram Powerwagon (the best off roder) Ford Ranger Raptor, F-150 Raptor, Chevy Colorado off rode truck.

I will add a trailer is a bit more comfortable as it will have a furnace and A/C. I saw a dealer on the west coast of Florida that had about 5 off road trailers.

He had a A-Liner Expedition, a trailer called 'Cricket' and a raised T@B trailer.

There are a myriad of small trailers that could work.

I will add hiking 20(ish) miles a day is very impressive as a big day for me is 18 years ago. Usually I liked 12 -15 mile days. Doing the Pacific Crest Trail is becoming less and less likely for me. I need too much support.
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Old 06-30-2019, 04:47 PM   #16
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I would suggest a fiberglass TT. Casita 16 or 17' or Scamp . I have owned the Casita 17' and it is light, easy to tow, great for one person, lots of storage, sounds like what you describe as wanting.

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You said you want some more comfort for your aging body by specifically mentioning your back. This has me thinking that a tiny bathroom setup might not be too good for you, so you might really want to lean towards one of the larger trailers. I have an ORV 19B, it can be towed with a half ton pickup or the right full sized SUV, and has what I consider to be a minimum sized bathroom and shower for my 6' 3" 250 sized carcass. It has all that you've asked for. The queen sized bed is nice to come home to when I'm all worn out. I've boondocked in it quite a bit before using it to travel around for work, and it does the job very well, and after living in it full time for four years, I plan on at least another four years, maybe more. Very happy with this RV. https://www.lassenrv.com/inventory/v...egon---2665511
I'm not really wanting to use a tiny bathroom/shower setup. Dry camping has me thinking a small outside shower would be nice at times I don't want to clean off like I was backpacking or dry car camping. I've been in enough small RV / Trailer bathrooms to realize I don't want to spend the 'space' on a large bathroom/shower in a tiny trailer nor, do I want to tow a 30' Airstream with a nice shower area.

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You still ride the dirt bike and want to take it with you? Toy haulers could also work well for you, and if you put a motorcycle or two in the back with some gas cans, etc., it levers some tongue weight off the hitch, so look into those. I don't know much about them myself except for what I've said here.
My 24' enclosed trailer serves as my "toy hauler" most of the time if that is the goal. I want a smaller bumper hitch trailer so I can toss ONE dual sport in the bed of a pickup when the mood strikes.

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If your goal is to stay really light though, I would offer this advice, and I want all new towable RV shoppers to consider this wisdom:

Find a trailer floorplan that you absolutely love, then go get the tow vehicle it will take to safely tow it, in that order. You can't have too much tow vehicle, and when you get a Subie with a breadbox connected to it hit with a strong sidewind, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. I'm not trying to tell you to go get a 3/4 ton diesel pickup, just think of this in terms of finding what I want to use for an RV, and then find what it will take to tow it well in the conditions you will be using it in. That is why I have a smallish trailer and a 3/4 pickup. I have been able to *everywhere* I've wanted to go, and it's been great.
If I go really lightweight with a tear drop trailer, pretty much anything will tow it. However, I am not opposed to using my half ton pickup to pull something a bit larger. Since I have not purchased a tow vehicle specifically for this trailer, all options are on the table from a 'RAV4' to a one Ton pickup.

Having towed in excess of 14K#'s with a half-ton pickup, I fully understand what you need in a tow vehicle to do that safely. I've driven everything from a Nissan Frontier to a Semi so, no worries about me try to move with a 6x12 U-haul with no brakes loaded with 6,000lbs of home furnishings with no trailer brakes and a 12yr old Grand Caravan tow vehicle ...
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Old 06-30-2019, 06:06 PM   #18
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Take a look at the AirStream Basecamp trailer.

When I had a bad back I found a great air mattress that I could pump up easy and to a hardness that my back felt great. I sleep like a baby. I can boondock for 10 days and stay clean using buckets of water to take sponge baths.
Air Mattresses and I have a love hate relationship at the moment. The jury is still out on that option.

Sponge baths ... ahh the memories in Arizona, Utah, etc. ...

The Airstream Basecamp trailer is one that I have mixed feelings about. It seems a bit over-priced for what it is but, the jury is still out on that option as I am undecided if that is a good option for me or not.

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TI still like the off road truck with bed cap and a really good air mattress and sleeping bag.
They types of places I would take a rig like that are generally not where I would want to spend the night, preferring a little closer proximity to civilization, or at least a gravel road. During daylight hours sure ...

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TNot sure what specific truck I would recommend but the list would include Ram Rebel, Ford F-150 FX4, Ram Powerwagon (the best off roder) Ford Ranger Raptor, F-150 Raptor, Chevy Colorado off rode truck.
For something larger than a half-ton Ford, the Dodge PowerWagon is hard to ignore, at least for me.

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TI will add hiking 20(ish) miles a day is very impressive as a big day for me is 18 years ago. Usually I liked 12 -15 mile days. Doing the Pacific Crest Trail is becoming less and less likely for me. I need too much support.
I'm a bit out of shape for that sort of unsupported trip in rural Utah right now but, I remember surprising a Park Ranger about 14 miles from the drop off point in an area with no water, harsh sun, and hot rocks. Apparently, I was the first 'civilan' she had seen in a very long time and it was about 2PM in full sun during the Summer.

If you can't tell, I like to get away from the tourist crowds and really see the natural beuaty the scenery has to offer.
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You were the one that brought up age, so no offense is intended:

In 5 years you're likely to want even more comfort than you do now. I think I small 20' camper/toyhauler will suit your needs now AND in 5 years. Try renting one for a weekend and then decide if that's not something you'd like...
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You were the one that brought up age, so no offense is intended:

In 5 years you're likely to want even more comfort than you do now. I think I small 20' camper/toyhauler will suit your needs now AND in 5 years. Try renting one for a weekend and then decide if that's not something you'd like...
No offense intended. I really appreciate everyone's input and point of view.

Even if I don't agree or see everyone else's point of view, I still appreciate the insight and consideration it brings. This thread has already enlightened me significantly and brought things into consideration I was totally oblivious too.

This is sort of a "bucket list" type of thing for me. My days of hard hiking and backpacking are limited as are my days on my KTM 450XCW. 5 or 10 years from now, I'll be in motels if I can travel at all.

The written word often comes across in unintended ways because it lacks a skilled author (me), tone of voice, facial expressions, etc. so, if I have come across negatively, please reconsider my words as that was not my intention.

The men in my family tree generally died in their early 60's so, my priorities are probably a bit outside of the norm for someone of my age. Add accumulated trauma from vehicle rear-end collisions and broken seat backs and I am grateful I can walk today!

Unlike the people I know and family members who have passed on, I do not want a motorhome nor do I want a 5th wheel travel trailer. Traveling light lets me enjoy the journey instead of taking care of a bunch of superfluous stuff that is really extraneous to the journey and the destination.

I like to travel light and reasonably comfortably but, I will sacrifice some comfort if it means I can travel a lot lighter.

This thread has me thinking a small tear drop trailer might not be the best option. I am thinking along the lines of a ~16' single axle trailer right now and possibly a small dual axle model like that Oliver with a lift to get a single dual sport motorcycle loaded onto and off of a pickup bed.
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Scrolling back through the thread takes me almost right back where I started, but with a twist.

Intech RV "Sol" is a single axle, fully equipped travel trailer, (yes, with a wet bath), but also small enough for the right SUV. It has a 3,900lb GVWR. Appears to be very good quality, welded aluminum tubing superstructure, etc.
https://www.intechrv.com/sol.php

When you dig into the design/build photos, you might clearly see influences of Scott Tuttle, (former owner of LivinLite), who now works for IntechRV. Hmmm... They are also redesigning it for next year's model line.


So if the teardrop is too small, the toy hauler too big, this one might be "just right".

Another thought along that line, If the KTM comes along, the your truck is the automatic tow rig with any small camper. With one of the IntechRV small toy haulers posted earlier, now you are in SUV territory, and the KTM still comes along if you wish.

I did a cargo conversion for our kayaks and mountain-biking adventures. 7x16, tows with my Montero 4WD SUV, and with my leaf spring axle 20" floor height, it goes just about anywhere I want it to. Check out flboys's bike hauler conversion on the tnttt.com forum, careful, you might get the bug. (He too, rides a KTM, there's just something "different" about those KTM guys).



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Teardrops n Tiny Travel Trailers • View topic - 7'*18' V-Nose Cargo Trailer Toy Hauler Conversion

Trucks. The Ram Power Wagon is a 2500, (which is a favorite of mine), does have some payload limits due to the articulated suspension package, (GVWR ~ 8,600lbs). With your targeted trailer, of course, it won't be an issue. I think the "best kept secret" is that you can order a Tradesman Package 2500, get a couple of low cost packages to get power conveniences, remote entry, etc. and then add the Power Wagon package. Now you have all the capability of the Power Wagon for fraction of the cost!
They are hard to find on the lot, usually in mountainous areas. Here's an example in Lewisburg, WV, How cool is that? (I've seen some advertised as low as $ 42K).

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Hard side folding campers and tear drop are good for one or two people and can be had in high clearance rough road models. They are easy to tow, good on gas mileage, go anywhere a car can go. Easy for RAV4 or Subaru. They won't slow you down or limit your destinations much. Plumbing tends to be limited but is possible. Add your own custom mattress for better sleeping.
I pulled a Chalet A frame folding camper all over the North American continent for 10 years. I started pulling it with a Toyota Solara. It did tend to blow out tires. I recommend a heavy duty under carriage. It was a cheap model and required much modification to start with and significant ongoing maintenance, but nothing like my cheap Dutchman Kodiak Cub. The Cub is a nightmare.

Stream lined Travel Trailers are next. Easier to tow than all the rest. Available cheap or expensive; tough or smooth road models, can have all the amenities. They can be small or large.
Casita - cheap
Escape - expensive, well built
Oliver - expensive, well built
Air Stream - expensive, well built
RPod and similar are half way streamlined.

All the rest: They all have seven square corners. Big or little, they are literally a drag. Towing over 60 miles per hour cost thousands in gas or diesel. Weight matters in the mountains, but the air drag is high and about the same for an 18 footer through a 30 footer.
I get 8 to 12 MPG with my 20 foot Kodiak Cub. I am reluctant to exceed 65 miles per hour, am always studying potential routes for obstacles, and avoiding bad weather.
Good for staying somewhere, bad for going and going.
Cheap ones have huge startup modification issues. They are hastily built, poorly designed, but look flashy. Cheap ones have major ongoing maintenance issues. Some are listed in manuals as required to maintain useless warranty, some are unexpected. Ongoing maintenance is constantly required.
All TT's often have first year issues. Better manufacturers and dealers have better warranty service. All TT's require ongoing maintenance whether you use it or not.
Consider buying a 2 to 4 year old TT from a private party. This strategy may have fewer head aches.

… camping out West mainly in Arizona. …
For warm weather consider a Casita or similar small molded fiberglass. Light, small, easy to tow, easy on gas. Has wet bath. Probably not great for 4 wheel drive roads.

Escape, Oliver, Air Stream, easy to tow, easy on gas, much better built, full on winter camping. They are expensive.

Truth in advertising in the TT industry is non-existent. "All Season", "4 Season", are meaningless. Don't pay any attention to slogans. Buyer Be Ware.

something easier on my body at camp today.
consider adding your own mattress if you need something special

What I think I want:
Something I can pull easily. By easily, gas up at car pumps, pull with a normal mid-size SUV (Nissan Xterra or Jeep Wrangler)
Cross-Over (Subaru, RAV4, etc.).

This size vehicle means very small TT's or folding campers. These small units are great for going and going...

doesn't hang back too hard because of wind drag …
heavy gusty winds I...

All most all full on travel trailers have the same wind profile. They all have seven square corners. They have sever wind drag and the longer they are the more they are subject to cross winds.

What's important to me:
  • Good build quality that won't 'shake down' over the long haul.
These will appear to be expensive. Keep in mind, Cheap TT's tend to continue to cost a lot after you sign the sales contract.
  • Basic off-grid kitchen with a fridge/freezer
Freezers used to be available on larger friges. Now they are available on small under counter models. Folding trailers may not have room for a freezer.
  • What's not important too me:
  • Something overly long, maybe 16' hitch to tail light though 20'~24' is do-able
A full size 20 foot will slow you down a lot and limit the places you may be willing to take it too.
  • Toilet and shower in the trailer, preferring more interior space
  • Dish or Direct-TV
  • carpeted floors
So you are done wild camping and have become an old man like me.

All can be had in small TT,s and folding campers.
Interior space is a trade off with going and going. Slides are flashy and roomy, but require maintenance and are more difficult with snow and ice.
You can carpet any of them easily by cutting in a remnant. I recommend throw rugs that can be easily removed to wash and replace.
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