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Old 12-04-2014, 04:02 PM   #1
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TT on permanent CG space - freeze protection needs?

I have a 28' travel trailer on a permanent site just south of San JosÚ CA. It never goes anywhere. Temperature can get down to freezing for a few hours during winter nights. I use the trailer every few weeks for a couple three weeks.

I have an electric heater I plan to leave on inside the trailer. How much else should I do between uses? Pink antifreeze in the fresh water and grey/black tanks? Pink antifreeze in the sink traps? Disconnect the water hose? Leave faucets open? Do I need to drain the water heater and the low point drains? Other?

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In my opinion, it needs to be below 30F for many hours before need for concern. 28F for at least four hours, and so on. Just a rule of thumb I go by.
It really depends on how cold and for how long. Not sure there is a right answer.

Also, do you have an outside shower? That would be the first to freeze, so you could leave it filled with pink.
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Yes, thanks for the outside shower comment. After reading I checked and yes there is one that I did not know was there.

And your feedback regarding the hours it takes at temp to cause a hard freeze was my thinking as well. With some heat in the trailer it will be a mitigation, and should power be out for some reason still only a modicum of prep is needed.
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A couple of hours of freezing temperature won't cause a freeze of plumbing. During the daylight hours I'm sure the trailer is warmed enough to last through those few cold hours. I wouldn't go to any great lengths to winterize. If you do put the heater in, I'd hook it to a thermostat that keeps it off until temps drop to 33║ in the trailer. If you keep it much warmer than ambient temperatures unoccupied, it just encourages mice and other critters to seek shelter.
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TT on permanent CG space - freeze protection needs?

[QUOTE=BFlinn181;2334647]A couple of hours of freezing temperature won't cause a freeze of plumbing. During the daylight hours I'm sure the trailer is warmed enough to last through those few cold hours. I wouldn't go to any great lengths to winterize. If you do put the heater in, I'd hook it to a thermostat that keeps it off until temps drop to 33║ in the trailer. If you keep it much warmer than ambient temperatures unoccupied, it just encourages mice and other critters to seek shelter.]

Thermostat controlled outlet, great idea. Google finds the Thermal Cube for less than $20. Turns on at 35 degrees, then off at 45 degrees. Dayton makes another similar but fancier for about $60. Perfect. Thanks!
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I keep a battery operated indoor/outdoor thermometer from RadioShack in my unit. It sits on a high shelf and the wire probe that is meant for outside stays down under the sink.
The reason for this is that it tracks the high and low temps, so when I come back to the unit, I can see exactly how cold it got inside, and the date and time it hit that temp. This is excellent data to have. I reset at every visit.

Also make sure you keep all the cupboard and vanity doors open to let the warmer air inside circulate to those otherwise closed spaces at outside walls.
Keep the slides in if possible.
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Picked up the Dayton thermostat outlet from Granger Supply. Works well.

Also works as a good thermostat when using the heater when I am there - better than trying to regulate the temperature with the simple uncalibrated dial on the heater.

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