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Old 12-02-2019, 02:58 PM   #1
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What do you think?

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Old 12-02-2019, 03:20 PM   #2
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I think it is a good idea. Rivets leak.
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Old 12-02-2019, 05:40 PM   #3
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And aluminum dents just looking at it.
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Old 12-02-2019, 06:56 PM   #4
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I think it is a good idea. Rivets leak.
But glue delams.
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Old 12-02-2019, 07:27 PM   #5
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Ever touched an aluminum canoe thats been sitting out in the sun? Ouch.
Imagine how hot an aluminum skinned TT would be. And how is the insulation? How hard would the AC have to run to keep one cool on a hot day?
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Maybe Mr. Mulls should review how changing those 3 aspects that made Airstream, Airstream. People buy those things for that shiny aluminum and shape. Personally, I find the inside shape claustrophobic and the outside looks like a 1950s toaster. Coming from commercial aviation as a sheet metal mechanic, they need to shim up that shiny skin to the framing so not to 'dimple' the skin as much as they do, possibly inducing skin cracking around rivet heads(leaks).

I also think that the people that love the Airstreams and can afford them, can be hard core traditionalists and be just as finicky as some Jeep owners. Case in point... AMF/Jeep with their 'square' head lights - that didn't work out too well. '

Me thinks Mr. Mulls should think twice before he starts changing those aspects of the Airstream that endeared owners to them in the first place...IMHO.
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Maybe Mr. Mulls should review how changing those 3 aspects that made Airstream, Airstream. People buy those things for that shiny aluminum and shape. Personally, I find the inside shape claustrophobic and the outside looks like a 1950s toaster. Coming from commercial aviation as a sheet metal mechanic, they need to shim up that shiny skin to the framing so not to 'dimple' the skin as much as they do, possibly inducing skin cracking around rivet heads(leaks).

I also think that the people that love the Airstreams and can afford them, can be hard core traditionalists and be just as finicky as some Jeep owners. Case in point... AMF/Jeep with their 'square' head lights - that didn't work out too well. '

Me thinks Mr. Mulls should think twice before he starts changing those aspects of the Airstream that endeared owners to them in the first place...IMHO.
I'm with this ^^^ any changes aren't going to bring in new buyers, you've got to like the basic design to be in the click. also I would think that a polished aluminum surface would reflect heat as good as anything, plus aluminum dissipates heat fast. wondering if the canoe was painted?
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Rented an aluminum boat this summer. It was hot as heck. Used the funky life jacket as seat cushion. Guess you've never touched an aluminum boat or canoe when it's been out in the sun on a 90* day.
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Air Stream has been bought out by Thor recently. Thor typically pushes its new acquisitions to increase sales volume, decrease cost, and increases profit. Thor now owns literally hundreds of TT and RV brands.

I see Thor's hand in the proposed changes.

Is aluminum good or bad?
The laws of physics apply regardless of what us humans think.

Touching aluminum that has been in direct sun light has everything to do with conductivity of aluminum and nothing to do with what the inside of the TT experiences. The rest of the wall structure must be considered.

Rounded corners on six edges of the TT does make it easier to tow fast and less subject to cross winds and pressure waves from passing traffic.

Fiber glass weights more than aluminum for the same strength. Each has its own failure modes. Carbon fiber out classes both.
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Old 12-03-2019, 10:35 AM   #10
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Air Stream has been bought out by Thor recently. ...
Wasn't that in like 1980? I look at Airstream as one that Thor has not screwed up. Unlike LivinLite, the acquired manufacturer of my all aluminum camper, which Thor killed.

My one piece alum roof gets very hot on top. Some folks paint them white. My painted aluminum sides do not seem to get very hot.
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I could easily be wrong about when, but I think it was this year or last that Thor bought out Air Stream.

Todays al air streams come with white painted roofs. Al gets hot in the sun. So does fiberglass. The color profile and texture of the surface determines amount of absorption and reflection. At the outside surface it is all about efficient reflection.

Al conducts heat at a much higher rate. It feels extremely hot because it conducts heat to your finger faster than fiberglass. The real issue is how much heat is conducted into the wall and radiates into the wall. Air Streams have an isolation insulation layer inside the skin that greatly decreased conduction through the aluminum. I don't know how good it reflects radiation. A thin layer of reflective Mylar would do the trick. Aluminum is also a good reflector. Polished aluminum would be better.
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It all started when Thor Inc., an investment company formed by Wade Thompson and Peter Orthwein, purchased Airstream back in 1980. Then in the early nineties, Thor began buying everything that had a good price and profitable future to include Dutchmen, Four Winds, Komfort, Keystone, Damon, General Coach, Heartland, Crossroads, K-Z, Livin' Lite, DRV, and Cruiser RV. Gobble, gobble, gobble, continued Thor as it used its massive buying power until it controlled close to 40% of the RV market in the U.S.

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