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Old 06-28-2015, 12:27 AM   #15
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Look at these..Wind River, Glacier Peak 5th wheel made by Outdoors RV Manufacturing and Snow River by Northwood manufacturing. La Grande Oregon.
The pic is our Wind River 250 RDSW. Okanagon Lake April this year.
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Want to do TT and not a 5th. Want to stay as short as possible and still get what we want. The Puma seems close to what we want but we are looking over all of the ones mentioned here.
Thanks for the ideas. Any more?
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Jayco has a number of TTS with full glass back windows. This pic isn't perfect but it's looking out the back glass wall on our Jayco 298 RLDS TT. It's the reason we wanted glass in the back. Opening bottom windows too were another plus. I know it's longer than you were looking for but just sharing TTs do come in this configuration. Good luck in your search.
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Old 06-28-2015, 09:25 AM   #18
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Want to do TT and not a 5th. Want to stay as short as possible and still get what we want. The Puma seems close to what we want but we are looking over all of the ones mentioned here.
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outdoors is a good brand, i'd give them a twice over in their TT's
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Looking at all the suggestions, looks like what I want will be 28+ long, got to decide if I want anything that big, the Jayco wasn't bad but its 30' overall.
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Jayco, Jay Flight 31 RLDS has a floor plan a lot like 5th, big back window, mid bath, front bedroom.
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Forest River, Flagstaff V-Lite (V front end) offers a front bath with a sofa in the rear:
Flagstaff V-Lite Travel Trailers by Forest River RV


We almost got a V-Nose TT for our last RV (loved the idea of the aerodynamics), but the dealer was stupid about the price, so we ended up with a normal TT.


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I wonder how much the aerodynamics really help gas mileage?
It has a big front bath for sure.
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Old 06-30-2015, 12:06 AM   #24
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I wonder how much the aerodynamics really help gas mileage?
It has a big front bath for sure.
I understand there is "zero" significant benefit from the so called aerodynamic effect by the "V" nose at the speed people tow at.
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Really? Would love to see those test results...as long as it DOES NOT come from a flat nose trailer maker

And if so, wonder why airplanes and boats have pointed front ends...those that go all speeds(?)

A teardrop leading edge is obviously best for mid-level wind speeds, but the V-Nose should look like this in a wind tunnel:
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When was the last time you saw a flat nose travel trailer?
They all seem to deflect air, whether around like a v nose or over the top like a conventional.
Frankly, defecting the air up and over creates down force to keep the trailer and truck rear planted. And makes for more efficient use of space and easy access to propane and battery.
Nothing wrong with a v nose, though.
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Posted By: beemerphile1 on 02/01/10 09:36am

The V nose trailer has increased frontal area so any benefit to the shape is most likely counteracted by the larger frontal area. The larger frontal area creates more drag. The worst factor is that it probably has a chopped off, flat rear like most all trailers. The flat rear creates lots of turbulence and a suction effect. Ever feel the suction from a semi?

The most aerodynamic shaped trailer is the tear drop shape. Ever see a rain drop fall? It is round in the front tapered to a point in the rear. Nature teaches us the most aerodynamic shape.

The only real benefit to a V nosed trailer is that it uses some area on the tongue that is otherwise wasted on many trailers.

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Old 06-30-2015, 10:21 AM   #28
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Copied from the Hensley mfg. question be answer page. Tear drop is the best design. V nose provide a little better interior space..but as you read not the most efficient aerodynamically.
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Do V-nosed Trailers Tow Better?
V-nose travel trailer
It seems there’s a bit of a myth being spread about by trailer salesman. The claim is that v-nose trailers are more aerodynamic and do not have a tendancy to sway as much as flat-fronted trailers. Travel trailers like the one pictured below seem to be the new industry trend, as manufacturers use every trick at their disposal to create more space with less length.
V-cross travel trailer

Aerodynamic shape?
When I was a first year engineernig student at Lawrence Tech University in Michigan, our instructor put several shapes up on the board and asked which was the most aerodynamic. Almost every student pointed to the V shape.

We were wrong. Our instructor then put up a side view of a Navy jet aircraft. Naturally, any aircraft manufacturer will choose the most aerodynamic shape possible. Our jet aircraft all have a teardrop shape, with the wide end pointing forward. That’s because it is the turbulant air that runs alonside the body of an aircraft, or trailer, that causes the most drag and turbulence.

A V shape does not deter turbulence. In fact, it makes it worse. Now you have wind pushing against two sides and not away from the trailer.

What is a good trailer design?
If we could design a trailer based on the teardrop shape, we would. However, it just isn’t a good use of interior space. Some manufacturers, like Airstream, Earthbound, Galileo, and a few others utilize a rounded front end, like the front end of the tear drop. This is the most aerodynamic design available that is also feasable for good interior space utilization.
Galileo Travel Trailer

Even with the more aerodynamic shape, all trailers will experience trailer sway. There’s no way to avoid the side-winds and passing trucks that will push against the side of the trailer. Uneven roads and sudden evasive steering will also cause a trailer to sway.

Benefits of V-nose trailers
That being said, I can’t simply discard the v-nose as a passing fad or bad idea. The space provided by these designs may very well make up for the decreased towability. The front kitchen design provides acres (okay, maybe not acres) of extra counter space. In a day when trailers are getting smaller, any extra square foot is worth any downside.

Getting rid of the trailer sway
You all know by now that I will never suggest you skimp on safety. Trailer sway is a very real problem and has resulted in thousands of accidents every year. Any trailer benefits from a good sway control hitch, but sway elimination is a better option. Click here for a free downloadable report about different sway control options.

The next time you visit an RV show or dealer, check out the v-nose options. If it’s fuel economy you’re after, a round nose trailer is the better option. I really like the new Earthbounds and Gallileos. These may be the next generation of towables in North America.



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