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Old 06-26-2015, 04:01 PM   #1
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Winnebago Ultra Lite Disappointment

Well, we've chosen our favorite travel trailer, and it's a Winnebago 28DDBH. Unfortunately, we can't buy it. It's not a money problem. It's an air conditioner problem. Seems a second A/C is not available for this trailer even though it's box is about 30' long, and has 2 slides. My current trailer's box is 26' and has one small slide. I sweltered through July and August in 2012, in this trailer, in Texas, and swore I'd never have a single A/C again. I've emailed Winnebago asking if this can be a special-order item and they have flatly refused, stating that a single 15K unit is enough. Maybe in Wisconsin... but not Texas. As long as they've been around, one would think they'd have a clue... but unfortunately...... We are very disappointed. Looks like we'll be buying a different brand with a nearly identical floor plan.
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I understand I have an ultra lite 27 which is a 2013 and that would have been a nice option. One thing we have found with the ducted AC I close all the other vents except the BR. We spend I month in August. But in our case most of the time there are just 2 of us.
I did see a newer model a few months ago at a dealer with upgraded options and thought one was that it was wired for a second AC. I am going back to that dealer next week. And if I have time I will look around and post it if i find anything.
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Old 06-26-2015, 09:56 PM   #3
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We just spent a week camping in high humidity and very high 90s in middle Georgia. It was a no shade site and my trailer is a fairly dark red/black color scheme. With one 13,500 AC, we had no problem keeping cool. There were two adults, two grown kids and two very large dogs. Thermostat was set to 70-72F and even in the middle of the day, it occasionally cycled off.

I understand you are in Texas and your last trailer didn't cool enough, but I don't understand a post declaring disappointment in a product you have never tried.
Since the second AC requires 50amp service, it's not like they just cut a second hole in the roof. The whole electrical system must be upgraded and all the ducts reworked.

I hope you find the right camper.
You may want to look at the Kodiak and Coleman. They are good quality and do have bunk models with the XL bunks you are looking for.
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Sorry for the rant.... but I have to say that the walls, floor, roof, etc are not really different between my current unit and this model Winnebago, ie. same R-values. Yes, I understand the difference in the electrical systems and the structural requirements, probably better than most. I do not understand why anyone would think the result would be different, when the factors are so similar. The volume of air to be cooled in the new trailer is going to be higher by about 12%, with the same outside heat, and the same capacity A/C. It doesn't add up... sorry. We're very disappointed because I have been researching this for some time and had come to the conclusion that these are, in fact, higher quality units than my present trailer, and others that were in the running. Again... sorry... this rant is the result of that disappointment.


That being said, I WILL call the dealer and ask them to hook one up, in the sun, on a hot day... and give it a shot. Because I like the trailer so much... I'd love for them to prove me wrong.
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Old 06-26-2015, 10:24 PM   #5
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Some people (especially Texans) have used the 14 inch square opening for the fan/vent and installed another 13.5K unit. It's not to hard to do, and adding a dedicated second electrical line (15 amp) is also no biggie.


As mentioned earlier, you would have to have access to a 50 amp pedestal for power. Just plug in your regular 30 amp line and then the new 15 amp line.
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We also TDI, just got back from 5 days at Geneal Coffee State Park in southern Ga,our site had shade in the morning but was in the sun from about 12 on. Temps. in the low 100's and our new Grey Wolf 26RL TT with just replaced 15,000 unit. It blows tons of cold air and did great untill the sun got on the unit, and slowly crep up into the low 80's , and rite back down as soon as shade appeared. When it was 104 outside, low 80's felt great !!!
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There are a few additional features like enclosed belly and tin lined, insulated ducting that help. I also keep one vent blowing at the door so everytime you open, it pushes cold air rather than sucking hot air. Having all the vents positioned correctly helps.
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Also from Dutchmen are the Coleman, which we almost got. The 296BH and 281BH also have the large bunks and outside kitchen as well as a second door in back to access the bathroom.
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Contacted a dealer for an A/C demonstration while out of town... and was turned down. So, I guess I'll spend my off time doing something else. I'll contact the local guys when I get back in town. Perhaps they'll be a little more accommodating. Unfortunately, this has soured me a bit more towards this whole deal. As spotty as build quality can be, I'm afraid to order one, for fear that when it comes in it'll have so many problems that I won't accept it.

TDI... Thanks... We like the ones with the kitchen slide and island sink...
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The main thing that bothers me about kitchen slides is all the plumping moving in and out, flexing all the time. Just my thoughts.
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Well, they either make it or they dont. Being in TX, I don't blame you at all..
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With the island sink, the plumbing doesn't move. All the appliances are in the slide. The only thing there would be the gas line to the stove. Some think the fridge being in the slide isn't a good idea, but I don't know why.


We're looking at the next size bigger Winnebago bunk-house plan, but I just don't think it fits our needs as well. It can have the 2nd A/C as an option. As far as the slightly smaller unit having to have a bunch of extra engineering, etc, I don't see it. Looks rather simple to me. Add the roof trusses and wiring for the second unit, and viola... you're done. Again, having spent 2 months one summer sweltering, with the unit I have, is why I want this, but no dice from the manufacturer.... I have the enclosed underbelly, 2" foam walls, etc...
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I have to ask, is the TT you are looking to buy a four (4) season unit, they normally
have better insulation and double pane windows?
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I don't believe so... never saw 4-season package in the options listed. I would think that would definitely help.
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