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Old 10-16-2015, 05:40 PM   #57
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I have seen the cross wind between Cheyenne WY and Fort Collins lift the tires of a TT off the ground - and wobble all over the road. Just the basic hitch. I pulled along side to motion - oblivious. I dropped back and pulled off the road.

Other better equipped TT and 5ers were making their way but it wasn't safe to drive and yet on they went. I waited it out after seeing that TT nearly go over.

Bottom line is be safe out there. Safe from others and safe yourself.
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You still haven't explained why they are so inherently dangerous that they should be outlawed. You've only given an opinion. I have an opinion that towing anything is a safety concern, but that doesn't seem to stop folks, or me, does it? Does it stop you from sharing the road with these risky devices?

(This is where you show us non-biased evidence to back up your point)
Of course I am only giving my opinion. The friction bar does not prevent sway it helps with control but not enough. A Hensley hitch or simular type of hitch moves the pivot point forward such as a fith wheel. Much safer.

No it doesnt stop me from sharing the road but I think it would be nice if everyone who shared the road with me would be driving safe vehicles.
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Old 10-16-2015, 06:18 PM   #59
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I found this post to be well written but contradictory and confusing.
Interesting...

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Talking about weight police etc is inflammatory
It was generalized at forums overall, and it happens on every forum.

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and serves no purpose.
Go on. Because informative advise is not weight police. People making the statements based on opinion are weight police.

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These are folks who believe in following the manufacturers rules and using common sense. They are trying to help the folks who are trying to learn.
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There is a statement to mandating a minimum requirement takes allows the government to control your intelligence and then a statement that the police are to enforce an overloaded vehicle.
You speak poor English in your sentence and it's hard to understand ("minimum requirement takes allows...). I'm not mandating a minimum requirement. It's in reference to the post stating that friction bars should be banned (banning something takes government action on some level via vote from the people...)

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Without a minimum requirement what are the police to enforce?
There is a minimum requirement already set in place. Read the law. Each vehicle is different so it's set per manufacturer rating and/or bridge capability. Why introduce a law saying you can't use friction bars? They work, just not as well as some higher end hitches on the market. They are rarely used, and if they are banned then people may start using nothing. Government control.

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I would sooner have a government rule for the police to follow than an officers view of what is acceptable.
There is a "rule" (law) already in place for varying types of loads, trucks, trailers, etc. Officers are trained to watch for this.

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If I know the rules I can follow them or not depending on my view of "common sense".
So you don't know the law/"rule" to follow? This is concerning for the rest of the people on the road...


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I do agree that the forums should be used as a tool to help folks who are trying to learn the correct and proper way to create a safe environment for them to transport themselves and their family on outings with their units.
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Unfortunately too many 'opinions' based on subjective experiences and attitudes cloud the issue with controversial statements.
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There is no secret to successful towing. Selecting the right combination of trailer and tow vehicle is the first step to creating a well balanced rig. Adding weight and sway control will only improve the combination.
Agreed. Including using friction bars.

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Those with the attitude "if you are not living life on the edge you are taking up too much space" are not doing a service to someone who is trying to learn about setting up their first time rig.
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Interesting...



It was generalized at forums overall, and it happens on every forum.



Go on. Because informative advise is not weight police. People making the statements based on opinion are weight police.



Agreed.



You speak poor English in your sentence and it's hard to understand ("minimum requirement takes allows...). I'm not mandating a minimum requirement. It's in reference to the post stating that friction bars should be banned (banning something takes government action on some level via vote from the people...)



There is a minimum requirement already set in place. Read the law. Each vehicle is different so it's set per manufacturer rating and/or bridge capability. Why introduce a law saying you can't use friction bars? They work, just not as well as some higher end hitches on the market. They are rarely used, and if they are banned then people may start using nothing. Government control.



There is a "rule" (law) already in place for varying types of loads, trucks, trailers, etc. Officers are trained to watch for this.



So you don't know the law/"rule" to follow? This is concerning for the rest of the people on the road...




Agreed




Precisely the point of my original post. Go on...




Agreed. Including using friction bars.



Agreed.






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The people who fear government controls are the ones who need it the most.
Congratulations, sheep. Get in line.

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Could you imagine if they scrapped all road safety laws and instead left it to our own common sense and judgement.
You've taken it to the extreme, just like anybody that doesn't know how to think for themselves. "Could you imagine..." Not applicable to anything that was said by...wait for it...anybody!


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Tt s with the cheap sway bars or none at all are a safety concern.
So you know everything about every truck and trailer combo on earth...congrats...


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We cant trust the rv dealer to set you up safely and it cant be left to the rv owner who in most cases will opt for the cheaper setup.
So you want government to control human stupidity over the common laws already in place? "People who fear government controls are the ones who need it most." You make a case for yourself and your fears. Congrats. So the government should be required to have paid staff readily available to weigh trucks/trailers, properly lube joints, and make sure each person is safe on the road (above and beyond police). Congrats, you socialist. There goes the jobs of the qualifies people of America to do this job they have worked so hard for. Hope your tax dollars cover that and not mine.


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We need mandatory safety minimums with these wobbly tts.
Laws do exist. Get out of the box you live in and read.


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Maybe have every travel trailer built with a Hensley hitch permanent ly installed.


Again, your tax dollars should cover this since its your idea. Good idea!



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To the OP, spend the money on a good weight distribution hitch and built in sway control. I personally use the Equalizer hitch and have found great success with it based on a recommendation from a friend. I have towed with a weight distribution set up without sway control and it was no good in my particular condition. A couple friction bars made a huge difference. While friction bars may work for you, built in sway control will give you the better guarantee and comfort. There are tons of options. If you have a question shoot me a message and I'll help you in any way I can. Happy trails and great towing!


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Interesting...



It was generalized at forums overall, and it happens on every forum.



Go on. Because informative advise is not weight police. People making the statements based on opinion are weight police.



Agreed.



You speak poor English in your sentence and it's hard to understand ("minimum requirement takes allows...). I'm not mandating a minimum requirement. It's in reference to the post stating that friction bars should be banned (banning something takes government action on some level via vote from the people...)



There is a minimum requirement already set in place. Read the law. Each vehicle is different so it's set per manufacturer rating and/or bridge capability. Why introduce a law saying you can't use friction bars? They work, just not as well as some higher end hitches on the market. They are rarely used, and if they are banned then people may start using nothing. Government control.



There is a "rule" (law) already in place for varying types of loads, trucks, trailers, etc. Officers are trained to watch for this.



So you don't know the law/"rule" to follow? This is concerning for the rest of the people on the road...




Agreed




Precisely the point of my original post. Go on...




Agreed. Including using friction bars.



Agreed.






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Went from WD with sway control to the Andersen Hitch. Ride is much much better, no problem with sway. It is close to the ride in the tv without the trailer. Best money I have spent in a long time. Wife is much happier and much more comfortable, as am I, at the end of the day. Biggest thing beyond installation was removing all the grease from the hitch. NO MORE greasy pant legs and hands.
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