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04-22-2016, 06:29 PM
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I know about the Hondas, they are a lot. I want a 3kw gen that I can parallel so I can power everything if need be. 4kw is enough for a smaller RV with a single AC but a large unit with dual AC needs more power available. Anyway thanks for the info and I'll look into the champ and boily.
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2014 Chevrolet 3500 CC SB Diesel
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04-23-2016, 04:25 AM
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Rather than a larger generator for A/C, I have two Yamaha EF2000 units with a parallel connection that'll run one air conditioner. They're about 50 lbs each and easier for me to move around. A single unit saves fuel and works well for us when A/C is not needed.
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2014 Mobile Suites 36RSSB3 2013 F350 DRW w/Trailersaver & air shocks
800 Watts solar, Tristar MPPT 45 & 460 AMPS Storage
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04-23-2016, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Airmech
I'm going to be looking to by soon and the ones I've found that I think will work are Briggs and Stratton p3000. Has anyone used this particular one yet?
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I heard good thinks about them
But haven't used one myself they look like a good set up , and there are lots of Briggs dealers around
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04-23-2016, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jeepsrule
What's the best smaller generator that's pretty quiet?
Jeepsrule
Diplomat 40PDQ
Jeep Cherokee toad
Fulltimer
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Regardless of what you buy (although I'm partial to the Honda's) check out the site:
Electric Generator Depot - Portable Generators For Sale - Buy Online, Free Shipping and Save
I purchased two Honda's from them, an EU-2000 and a EU-2000ic so I could parallel them to run my travel trailer. Now we have a Class A, but still carry one of them for boondocking when I don't need the AC! Sips fuel, and I have the 6 gallon extended run system with quick disconnects. I've heard good things about the Yamaha's as well. Champions, I have friends who have both good and bad to say about them, seems like they are not all equal. Good luck in whatever you chose!
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04-23-2016, 06:30 AM
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National RV Owners Club Holiday Rambler Owners Club
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Like the old saying goes: Pay now or pay later.
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07-25-2016, 01:46 PM
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I don't know about the honda generators, but our honda lawn mower is - substandard to our expectations.
The main challenge is that the fuel system is not compatible with gasoline / ethanol blends (even 10%) and will gum up if the fuel usage is not fairly high. We used very good quality, conventional gasoline and fuel system maintenance was a 2X per year event. The problem is intrinsic to the metals used in their fuel system.
We finally solved the problem by switching to the $3 - 5 per quart specialty gasoline sold in a metal can at lawn mower shops / home depot / lowes. Prior to this, it was costing more than $100+ / year in maintenance, so it was a reasonable trade off.
Originally I assumed that the shops were doing something wrong, so I rebuilt the fuel system myself and found the exact same problem that they had.
I hear lots of bragging about honda, but that has not been our experience.
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07-25-2016, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by harryn
I don't know about the honda generators, but our honda lawn mower is - substandard to our expectations.
The main challenge is that the fuel system is not compatible with gasoline / ethanol blends (even 10%) and will gum up if the fuel usage is not fairly high. We used very good quality, conventional gasoline and fuel system maintenance was a 2X per year event. The problem is intrinsic to the metals used in their fuel system.
We finally solved the problem by switching to the $3 - 5 per quart specialty gasoline sold in a metal can at lawn mower shops / home depot / lowes. Prior to this, it was costing more than $100+ / year in maintenance, so it was a reasonable trade off.
Originally I assumed that the shops were doing something wrong, so I rebuilt the fuel system myself and found the exact same problem that they had.
I hear lots of bragging about honda, but that has not been our experience.
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Many gas stations sell Ethanol free gasoline now. Locally we have a WaWa and a Racetrac station that sells it. I don't fault the engine. Have you also tried adding fuel stabilizer to your fuel? I also consider that a must when fuel is stored more than 30 days.
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07-25-2016, 04:03 PM
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Before condemning Honda, Google " Phase Separation " for some information on E-gas.
Ethanol absorbs water and then separates from the gas and sinks. If you run it out of gas, before storing 4 weeks or more, you should be fine.
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07-29-2016, 05:00 PM
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I tried a variety of fuel stabilizers - none solved the problem.
The Honda lawn / generator dealer told me (several times before I believed them) that the issue is that the fuel reacts with the metal in the fuel system, I think the bowl. Over time (like 30 days) the fuel polymerizes and clogs things up.
For their commercial gardeners, it is not a problem, because they go through fuel so quickly compared to a home owner with a small yard. I wish my yard was larger, but reality is that with its small size, even when I used to mow 2x per week, it was not consumed quickly enough.
Pre - drought, this meant mowing the yard 7-8 months per year, and 2 rebuilds. With the drought of course, we mow less.
It took me a while to be willing to pay $5 - 7 / quart for fuel, but it solved the problem. Now that Home Depot and Lowes carry it at a lower cost, it isn't a big deal for our low consumption rate.
I understand the challenges with ethanol in gasoline and have used it in cars since the late 70s when I lived in IA. It only takes some small care by the engine builders to select the proper alloys and materials to avoid 90% of the ethanol related challenges. Ethanol in fuels has been in common use for a long time to be having these kinds of materials selection issues.
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07-29-2016, 05:27 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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I have used StaBil for many years. Never a problem with gasoline that had been stored for long term.
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2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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07-29-2016, 05:42 PM
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StarTron is different than other stabilizers.....it cures ethanol problems
http://www.starbrite.com/startron
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08-23-2016, 05:08 PM
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Starting up an old thread, but has anyone had any experience with lifan energy storm generators?
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2014 Chevrolet 3500 CC SB Diesel
2007 Grand Junction 34TRG
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08-23-2016, 08:10 PM
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I have a champion 4000 RV generator from tractor supply. $300 Runs my 15000 btu ac along with everything but water heater so I run it on gas. It's not as quiet as the honda but not as loud as contractor type. Runs 12 hrs on a tank of gas. 3.8 gallons.
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08-24-2016, 11:23 AM
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Tiffin Owners Club
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Another good one is SeaFoam. I left my 4000 genset sitting for 4 months, then it surged bad (gummed up) when I started it. I took the carb. off, soaked it in SeaFoam overnight, then blew it out the next day with compressed air and now it runs like new! SeaFoam is also good to add regularly to fuel to stop gumming.
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