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Anyone Run Satellite Cable to rear of coach ?
08-24-2011, 05:23 AM
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I'm going to install a Wineguard traveler SK 3005 and want to run cable to rear of the coach so I can install another Direct reciever. I have an 07 Diplomat 40 PDQ, has anyone run cable to the rear tv ? Just want any advice or experiences on pulling the cable. I'm thinking of using the existing cable to the tv and putting a splitter on the end and pulling 2 new cables. Is there room to pull the splitter through? Any help would be appriciated.
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08-24-2011, 05:31 AM
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What you are saying is you don't have cable to your rear tv? Most RV's have cable in the bedroom. More info please.
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08-24-2011, 05:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tims52ford
What you are saying is you don't have cable to your rear tv? Most RV's have cable in the bedroom. More info please.
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Yes, there is a cable running to the rear tv.
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08-24-2011, 06:27 AM
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Are you going to run an HDI cable for the new receiver or just a second RCA? You may want to get a hold of a wire snake to do either.
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08-24-2011, 06:46 AM
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The Winegard must have a switch since it can get 5 birds and supports multiple receivers. I think you could attach one of the coax from the switch to the AUX on the switch that is in your coach. Then for the rear TV select AUX for the second receiver and attach the coax that is in place to it. If the receiver is pass through you will be able to use the ANT and any other with it off. If not you should be able to use a diplexer. Then use the HDMI from the receiver to the TV if it is a HD.
The coax should be RG6.
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08-24-2011, 07:15 AM
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Assuming the rear TV is not in a slide out, the easiest way to get a new cable back there is to run it directly from the Trav'ler, across the roof and into the proper cabinet through the ceiling in the bedroom. Problem solved and everything else still works just as it used to. You can secure the cable to the roof with caulk and cable clamps so it will not move or rattle.
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08-24-2011, 07:16 AM
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If you already have one coax running to the back of the coach, you do not have to run another. You can use two diplexers (similar to a splitter) one at each end of the run. This will allow you to run both a satellite and OTA signal on the same coax. I did this when I installed the Trav'ler 3005 on my Journey.
I have a Direct HD receiver for the front TV and ran a coax directly from the Trav'ler to that receiver. I ran a second coax from the Trav'ler to the 'SAT' side of a diplexer up front. I attached the OTA antenna output from my AV switchbox to the 'ANT' on the diplexer. The signal out of the diplexer goes to the coax running to the rear of the coach.
At the rear of the coach, I have a SD Direct reciever. Using a second diplexer just reverse the connections.....coax from the front to the single lug, short coax to the SAT receiver and another short coax to the OTA input of your TV (or converter if you have one).
With this set up, I can see either OTA or SAT programming on either TV and can watch different Direct TV channels on either TV.
If you are using Direct TV, depending on the particular converter you have, you may need one of their B-Band converters on the coax going into the HD receiver.
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08-24-2011, 07:44 AM
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I agree with smlranger but would caution that, if what I have been told is true, the diplexers cannot be used if you desire HD in the rear. They work great with SD as witnessed by smlranger. Before my HD satellite was installed at home, I used diplexers to get OTA to each tv. The installer took them off and mentioned that HD uses two frequencies within the wire, thus they would interfere or no longer work. Not sure exactly how this works but that is what I was told. Perhaps Bill Adams might be able to clarify.
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08-24-2011, 07:50 AM
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I have not used the diplexer setup with an HD setup so I cannot help there. I am a fan of a direct run but that is not always possible.
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08-24-2011, 09:11 AM
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I attempted to use the existing coaxial cable to pull an HDMI cable through my Windsor. It did not work. The existing cable is clamped in several places through the attic space.
My next plan is to route the cable through the air conditioning duct. The duct extends forward almost to the overhead cabinet for the receiver and in the rear it goes right next to the TV cabinet. The problem now is how to drill a hole for the calbe at a 90 degree angle within the small duct.
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08-24-2011, 11:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Adams
Assuming the rear TV is not in a slide out, the easiest way to get a new cable back there is to run it directly from the Trav'ler, across the roof and into the proper cabinet through the ceiling in the bedroom. Problem solved and everything else still works just as it used to. You can secure the cable to the roof with caulk and cable clamps so it will not move or rattle.
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Thanks Bill, the tv is in the slide so have to re think this.
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08-24-2011, 11:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smlranger
If you already have one coax running to the back of the coach, you do not have to run another. You can use two diplexers (similar to a splitter) one at each end of the run. This will allow you to run both a satellite and OTA signal on the same coax. I did this when I installed the Trav'ler 3005 on my Journey.
I have a Direct HD receiver for the front TV and ran a coax directly from the Trav'ler to that receiver. I ran a second coax from the Trav'ler to the 'SAT' side of a diplexer up front. I attached the OTA antenna output from my AV switchbox to the 'ANT' on the diplexer. The signal out of the diplexer goes to the coax running to the rear of the coach.
At the rear of the coach, I have a SD Direct reciever. Using a second diplexer just reverse the connections.....coax from the front to the single lug, short coax to the SAT receiver and another short coax to the OTA input of your TV (or converter if you have one).
With this set up, I can see either OTA or SAT programming on either TV and can watch different Direct TV channels on either TV.
If you are using Direct TV, depending on the particular converter you have, you may need one of their B-Band converters on the coax going into the HD receiver.
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Thanks smlranger I am going to research diplexers and see if it will work for hd.
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08-24-2011, 11:49 AM
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I agree with bill, take the "High Road" (Roof) path.
Now: To the issue of using the existing cable.. Odds are that is RG-59 and may well be "Lowest Bidder" 59 at that.. let's say there is 50 feet of it between your switch box and your TV, that can easily be over 200 feet equivlent of RG-6, The better the RG-6 the greater the expansion in length.. Every foot you loose signal strength (Heck every inch but you need a fair number of feet to notice it)
I have run a few hundred feet of assorted coax cables around this rig.. Ham radio operator. The more I learn the easier it is to run cables.
Now, THIS IS MY RIG, The path from the front cabinet to the bedroom TV.
Down the "A" pillar (First window pillar) under the dash, through the firewall into the engine compartment (This is a front engine gasser) along frame rails till I get to the compartments, perferblly the "WET" compartment (Water storage/waste storage) from there I can follow the plumbing up into the motor home and along under the slide where as it happens... it runs,, Right under the TV, up beside teh bedroom drawers and to the TV's compartment.
That is Mine.. Yours.. Likely different.
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08-24-2011, 05:21 PM
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Good luck with the diplexers for HD. I tried two different brands and neither would pass signal to the bedroom DTV HD receiver. I think one of them said it was for HD. They must have meant off air HD.
I ended up using the existing cable to the rear DTV HD receiver connected to the Trav'ler cable in front compartment. For local off air I put a rabbit ears antenna in the rear window. Have been surprised how many off air it can bring in.
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