|
03-13-2019, 01:06 PM
|
#1
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: On the road fulltime
Posts: 777
|
Dish Hopper
We are switching from DTV to Dish and I have spoken to Dish twice and both times I was told that I can not have a Hopper in a RV and that I need to have a Wally.. Is this true?
I guess if so that's ok but I thought I had read that people DO use a Hopper in their RV and that the Hopper is a superior device over the Wally, am I missing something?
|
|
|
|
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!
iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!
|
03-13-2019, 01:26 PM
|
#2
|
Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 15,749
|
Many people are using Hoppoer in RV usage. Whenever you talk to Dush representatives, it's a crap shoot if you will get one that knows RV options correctly.
You need a Traveler or RF Mogal antenna with a Hopper.
__________________
Vince and Susan
2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
|
|
|
03-13-2019, 01:28 PM
|
#3
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Mariposa, CA
Posts: 3,933
|
Go through a local sat TV installer, not DISH directly.
I've had Hoppers (original, Hopper w/Sling, and now Hopper 3) in my RV since 2012.
__________________
2003 - 2010: 2004 35' National RV Sea Breeze LX 8341
2010 - 2021: 2001 41' Newmar Mountain Aire 4095
2021 - ???? : 2001 31' National RV Sea View 8311
|
|
|
03-13-2019, 02:49 PM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Chicago Metro
Posts: 3,965
|
call Solid Signals at 1 (877) 312-4547 for...sorry, i gotta do it...solid information
__________________
Rich, Ham Radio, Sport Pilot
Retired 9-1-1 Admin.
|
|
|
03-13-2019, 02:59 PM
|
#5
|
Community Administrator
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: DFW, Texas
Posts: 21,568
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by vsheetz
You need a Traveler or RF Mogal antenna with a Hopper.
|
That's the key. A Hopper won't work with a dome antenna.
__________________
2017 Phaeton 40IH XSH Maroon Coral - Power Glide Chassis with IFS
Previous '15 Tiffin Allegro RED 38QRA and '06 Itasca Sunrise 35A
'16 Jeep JKU Wrangler Sahara or '08 Honda Goldwing
|
|
|
03-13-2019, 07:01 PM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Ford Super Duty Owner Grand Design Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Titusville, FL
Posts: 1,305
|
I just fixed a guys Hopper/Joey installation today after the Dish installer couldn't complete the job. This is the first time I saw a Hopper/Joey set up. What a conglomeration of multiplexers, splitters, power inhibiters and 'stuff'. But it worked when I got done.
Actually I think the DirectTV Genie is a simpler installation
Why do you want a Hopper/Joey? Why not just 2 receivers? Why not a VIP722 to record & playback? Especially if you have a dome; you can still get HD that way.
but the real question - do ya have a Winegard Traveler? If it's DirectTV (and especially if it's a SWM model) you'll have a few expenses converting it to Dish; then it will be time to decide on receivers.
__________________
2018 F350 CC, SB
2019 Grand Design Solitude 310GKR
|
|
|
03-13-2019, 08:08 PM
|
#7
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Mariposa, CA
Posts: 3,933
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by traveldawg
I just fixed a guys Hopper/Joey installation today after the Dish installer couldn't complete the job. This is the first time I saw a Hopper/Joey set up. What a conglomeration of multiplexers, splitters, power inhibiters and 'stuff'.
|
It couldn't be that complicated if you finished the install and it was your first Hopper install.
Here's some specifics on the "stuff" used in Hopper installs . . .
HOPPER 1 (original) & HOPPER 2 (Hopper w/Sling) INSTALLATION:
HOPPER 3 INSTALLATION:
Quote:
Originally Posted by traveldawg
IWhy do you want a Hopper/Joey? Why not just 2 receivers? Why not a VIP722 to record & playback?
|
.
Why a Hopper? If it's a Hopper 3, then you have 16 tuners, whole-house DVR, PTAT, etc.
Quote:
Originally Posted by traveldawg
but the real question - do ya have a Winegard Traveler? If it's DirectTV (and especially if it's a SWM model) you'll have a few expenses converting it to Dish; then it will be time to decide on receivers.
|
About $300 in 2015.
__________________
2003 - 2010: 2004 35' National RV Sea Breeze LX 8341
2010 - 2021: 2001 41' Newmar Mountain Aire 4095
2021 - ???? : 2001 31' National RV Sea View 8311
|
|
|
03-14-2019, 06:51 AM
|
#8
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: On the road fulltime
Posts: 777
|
BINGO!!!! And thanks for all of the replies. As soon as I contacted a Dish dealer OTHER THAN Dish directly and told them what I was after it was fast and easy.
To answer a couple questions, we are having a New Horizon 5th wheel being built and are having the Winegard Traveler for Dish installed so no conversion needed. The Traveler we have on our current motorhome is staying with the coach.
The new 5th wheel will have 3 TV's and we will have a Joey's at the bedroom and outside TV's which will be a step above what we have in our current motorhome with Direct but that has not been a problem because we tend to watch the same thing together anyway. But we decided what the heck, lets set it up so we can watch and record different things at each TV this time.
So we will have about the same programing with Dish that we have with Direct and we will have more capabilities as far as watching and recording different things on different TV's at the same time, we will have a more sophisticated receiver and remote AND the best part is we will have a provider that allows us to change our current location for local stations much easier than we have been able to do with Direct, no more having to watch all of the hate & discontent in LA.
Oh, and we will save a little money every month, at least for the 1st couple years.
|
|
|
03-14-2019, 08:11 AM
|
#9
|
Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: DFW
Posts: 1,473
|
I used a Hopper 3 in our coach for a year. Would take it out of the house and put it in the RV when we needed it.
My understanding is the reason that Dish doesn't want you to use the Hopper in the RV is fear the hard drive will crash while driving. So just unplug it before you move.
__________________
2009 Fleetwood Excursion 40E
|
|
|
03-14-2019, 05:52 PM
|
#10
|
Senior Member
Ford Super Duty Owner Grand Design Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Titusville, FL
Posts: 1,305
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by TechWriter
It couldn't be that complicated if you finished the install and it was your first Hopper install.
Here's some specifics on the "stuff" used in Hopper installs . . .
HOPPER 1 (original) & HOPPER 2 (Hopper w/Sling) INSTALLATION:
HOPPER 3 INSTALLATION:
.
Why a Hopper? If it's a Hopper 3, then you have 16 tuners, whole-house DVR, PTAT, etc.
About $300 in 2015.
|
Thank you for the info, tech writer. The dish guy installed the 'stuff' and got the Joey working. He couldn't figure out the coach wiring for the sending the hopper to the front and outside TVs tho. It was a hopper 3.
__________________
2018 F350 CC, SB
2019 Grand Design Solitude 310GKR
|
|
|
03-18-2019, 01:14 PM
|
#11
|
Member
Thor Owners Club Damon Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Arizona
Posts: 89
|
Proper a/b switch for quad shield rg6
Quote:
Originally Posted by TechWriter
It couldn't be that complicated if you finished the install and it was your first Hopper install.
Here's some specifics on the "stuff" used in Hopper installs . . .
HOPPER 1 (original) & HOPPER 2 (Hopper w/Sling) INSTALLATION:
HOPPER 3 INSTALLATION:
.
Why a Hopper? If it's a Hopper 3, then you have 16 tuners, whole-house DVR, PTAT, etc.
About $300 in 2015.
|
Thanks for the info TechWriter. What a/b switch would you recommend for the bottom example given Dish recommends quad shield RG6 for the satellite dish feeds? Al
|
|
|
03-18-2019, 04:18 PM
|
#12
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Mariposa, CA
Posts: 3,933
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by NumberThree1950
What a/b switch would you recommend for the bottom example given Dish recommends quad shield RG6 for the satellite dish feeds? Al
|
What does quad-shielding have to do with an AB switch? I think I used these . . . Steren 2-Way Coaxial Switch
Also, get some quality Belden 3 GHz RG6.
__________________
2003 - 2010: 2004 35' National RV Sea Breeze LX 8341
2010 - 2021: 2001 41' Newmar Mountain Aire 4095
2021 - ???? : 2001 31' National RV Sea View 8311
|
|
|
03-18-2019, 11:47 PM
|
#13
|
Member
Thor Owners Club Damon Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Arizona
Posts: 89
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by TechWriter
|
It has everything to do with how much noise is inserted into the lnb Signal prior to it getting amplified in the receiver. If there is no concern with this in the switch great, that is what I was trying to determine. Notice that in the bottom diagram the description of the signal changes which might imply a higher level of noise immunity required in those circuits. It is my understanding that Dish requires greater than 2ghz capability in its sat cables from the dish to the receiver. If the switch is rated for that great. I have been unsuccessful finding info on switches. Thus the question.
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
Similar Threads
|
Thread |
Thread Starter |
Forum |
Replies |
Last Post |
Anyone using Hopper 3 and Hopper Duo on same account?
|
TexasTom |
Technology: Internet, TV, Satellite, Cell Phones, etc. |
13 |
03-21-2019 11:53 AM |
Orginal Hopper or Hopper 2
|
CWSWine |
Technology: Internet, TV, Satellite, Cell Phones, etc. |
9 |
02-07-2019 02:42 PM |
how to replace a hopper 2 and 1 joey with a hopper 3 and 1 joey
|
bigdgr |
Technology: Internet, TV, Satellite, Cell Phones, etc. |
11 |
03-03-2018 12:15 PM |
Hopper + Hopper or Hopper + Joey???
|
Rockysvet |
Technology: Internet, TV, Satellite, Cell Phones, etc. |
2 |
05-16-2014 01:32 PM |
Dish pay as you go service vs Dish Hopper
|
hogdriver |
Technology: Internet, TV, Satellite, Cell Phones, etc. |
21 |
03-06-2014 11:20 PM |
|
» Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|