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04-21-2017, 12:52 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 9
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Dish Portable Satellite Stops Working
We have a Wineguard Pathway X2 portable satellite that we don't use regularly. Our satellite box is a Dish VIP 211Z. When we haven't used it in a while, we have to have Dish "ping" it or update some software, then it will work. But, most mornings we turn it on and we have a complete signal loss, even though it shows all, satellites as green.
We can rerun the satellite search, and sometimes it's works. Other times we have to go to greater lengths to get it to work. Other times we lose the locals (we haven't moved), and have to rerun the satellite search, then they work. The next morning we usually have to go through this process again.
Has anyone else experienced this? We have ordered a Wally box, and are hoping that will help. I don't believe it's the satellite receiver, since we show that all satellites have been found.
Thanks in advance.
Kari
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04-21-2017, 01:20 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: Warner Robins, GA
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Kari,
I've found that if I leave my Dish 211Z receiver plugged in and hooked up it will stay updated even if we haven't used it for a long period of time. If I unplug it or lose power I will have to run it through it's update.
Jon
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Lil Girl-Rescued, Abby Rescued, Peaches Rescued
06 Allegro 35TSA Workhorse Chassis
2013 Chevy Spark Dinghy
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04-21-2017, 03:10 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SoCal
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The ping to reauthenticate the receiver if not connected for over ~30 days is normal and expected behavior.
Having to repeatedly rescan for satelites is not normal in my experience, as long as you have not lost power. If after you install the wally if it persists then that pretty much isolates to the antenna.
Having to change the service address for local channels - if you are on the edge of the service area, it may work then not. I have experienced this. The edge of the service area is not binary.
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2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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04-21-2017, 03:51 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfran304
Kari,
I've found that if I leave my Dish 211Z receiver plugged in and hooked up it will stay updated even if we haven't used it for a long period of time. If I unplug it or lose power I will have to run it through it's update.
Jon
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We have a roof mounted satellite that we use when we can, this is the first time in about 5 months that we have used the portable. But, good to know this part is normal.
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04-21-2017, 03:58 PM
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Junior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vsheetz
The ping to reauthenticate the receiver if not connected for over ~30 days is normal and expected behavior.
Having to repeatedly rescan for satelites is not normal in my experience, as long as you have not lost power. If after you install the wally if it persists then that pretty much isolates to the antenna.
Having to change the service address for local channels - if you are on the edge of the service area, it may work then not. I have experienced this. The edge of the service area is not binary.
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No, we haven't lost power, it happens almost every morning. Hoping the Wally will help, we get it next week.
I guess we could be on the edge of the local service, I'm not sure how far they extend. We're in southern GA, exit 1, and our locals are Jacksonville. I'm going to believe it's the box for now, it's just flaky.
Thanks for your input.
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04-22-2017, 07:27 PM
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Member
Solo Rvers Club American Coach Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Arkansas until it gets cold!
Posts: 36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Klf728
We have a roof mounted satellite that we use when we can, this is the first time in about 5 months that we have used the portable. But, good to know this part is normal.
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Roof mounted dish antenna:
Is it an in-motion or an elliptical that raises up and is exposed?
I'm wondering if you can hear those moving at night to update your channel guide?
Thanks in advance.
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2013 Jeep Wrangler 4D Sahara toad (35" Toyo's)
Early Retiree, Full Timing, GOD is my Pilot!
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04-23-2017, 01:21 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackstraw54
Roof mounted dish antenna:
Is it an in-motion or an elliptical that raises up and is exposed?
I'm wondering if you can hear those moving at night to update your channel guide?
Thanks in advance.
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Ours is an elliptical that raises up, it has 3 transponders and once it find the satellites it doesn't move. I would suspect if you only have 1 transponder you could hear it move, we see our portable move when we change channels, but it's not on the roof.
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04-23-2017, 02:02 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
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If it is anything like our tailgater see if you can open it up and watch it work. We were having the problem of rescanning often and found the wheel that raises and lowers the dish was slipping in the curved plastic part that made the dish go up and down. I found a nut and bolt near the bottom of same and there was some adjustment to it. All good now.
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04-24-2017, 12:20 AM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Warner Robins, GA
Posts: 2,613
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackstraw54
Roof mounted dish antenna:
Is it an in-motion or an elliptical that raises up and is exposed?
I'm wondering if you can hear those moving at night to update your channel guide?
Thanks in advance.
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We turn our roof mounted dish off after it locks into the satellites so it doesn't move anymore and it updates.
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Jon & Sue Francis (Retired U.S.A.F.)
Lil Girl-Rescued, Abby Rescued, Peaches Rescued
06 Allegro 35TSA Workhorse Chassis
2013 Chevy Spark Dinghy
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07-11-2017, 08:51 AM
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Member
Solo Rvers Club American Coach Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Arkansas until it gets cold!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfran304
We turn our roof mounted dish off after it locks into the satellites so it doesn't move anymore and it updates.
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Thanks. I have an in motion that came with 2015 Tiffin Allegro Bus 45OP, but added an elliptical stationary Wineguard traveler that gets all 3 satellites. I'm happy so far & yes turn off the in-motion!
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2015 Tiffin Allegro Bus 45OP 600HP with Freightliner Chassis
2013 Jeep Wrangler 4D Sahara toad (35" Toyo's)
Early Retiree, Full Timing, GOD is my Pilot!
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07-30-2017, 07:47 AM
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Member
Solo Rvers Club American Coach Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Arkansas until it gets cold!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Klf728
Ours is an elliptical that raises up, it has 3 transponders and once it find the satellites it doesn't move. I would suspect if you only have 1 transponder you could hear it move, we see our portable move when we change channels, but it's not on the roof.
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Thanks! I upgraded to a newer coach & now have in motion, Wineguard traveler & a Pathway X-2 taking up 1/2 of my jeep's backseat.
Once parked the Wineguard locks on & no Moving around at all!
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2015 Tiffin Allegro Bus 45OP 600HP with Freightliner Chassis
2013 Jeep Wrangler 4D Sahara toad (35" Toyo's)
Early Retiree, Full Timing, GOD is my Pilot!
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07-31-2017, 09:22 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Waiter21
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Thank you, I think we'll need to upgrade our connectors.
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07-31-2017, 10:23 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Vancouver Wash
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Gold connectors are a hipe......just like monster cables.....
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