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FlyingDiver · 12-13-2011, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo16720

I don't know why everyone thinks High Def is different. It's all digital. The old stuff was anolog.

You're right. From a wiring point of view, HD Satellite is no different than SD satellite. Except that you need the right kind of dish to pick up the HD signals.

Not sure what "old stuff" you're referring to.

joe

jimbo16720 · 12-13-2011, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingDiver

You're right. From a wiring point of view, HD Satellite is no different than SD satellite. Except that you need the right kind of dish to pick up the HD signals.

Not sure what "old stuff" you're referring to.

joe

Analog.....is the old stuff.

mikelm48 · 12-14-2011, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mikelm48

If I ran the sat cable into the distribution switch and then connected the coax from the distribution switch into a front and rear sat box, would I get HD at both and be able to watch different channels at each TV?

Thanks for all the input on my original question. What I want is to be able to watch different channels on the front and rear TV. I could live with SD on the rear. I will be using Dish. I know that not all of the Dish channels are on the same sat, but I would at least like to have control of the current sat channels on the rear TV. I don't want to run any new wiring. Thanks.

justaroamer · 12-14-2011, 04:06 PM

The main difference in HD and SD is picture quality. My H24's (DTV receivers) can even decode the new 3-D chanels. Yes all digital, difference is in the compression/decoding and band.
Can you rewire the coach to HDMI, someone asks...yes, wirelessly is the best and easiest way to go in older coaches, but other wireless devices can interrupt. Can also convert HDMI and broadcast over CAT 5e/6 cabling which is much smaller and cheaper than long HDMI cables. This also works to a convient area an HDMI switch can be installed to branch to other TVs.
And last but not least, the back of the H21 and H24 receivers have both HDMI and Component that broadcast simutaneously so one can run HDMI to one TV and HDMI to the other. HDMI gives the best signal. Component is an analog signal.
Many RV mfg. in the late 2000's used component cabling within the coaches for distribution.
I don't know of an inmotion dome that receives HD on Directv. Some did such as Kingdome, but utilized and optional splitter to recieve HD on Sat 110 for Directv, but that no longer works as they are moving HD signals, hince the 5 LNB array. Dish still will if stationary, but must switch sats.
Get a MotoSat or Wineguard that incorpoates this for HD broadcasts.

Triker56 · 12-15-2011, 06:13 AM

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The main difference in HD and SD is picture quality. My H24's (DTV receivers) can even decode the new 3-D chanels. Yes all digital, difference is in the compression/decoding and band.
Can you rewire the coach to HDMI, someone asks...yes, wirelessly is the best and easiest way to go in older coaches, but other wireless devices can interrupt. Can also convert HDMI and broadcast over CAT 5e/6 cabling which is much smaller and cheaper than long HDMI cables. This also works to a convient area an HDMI switch can be installed to branch to other TVs.
And last but not least, the back of the H21 and H24 receivers have both HDMI and Component that broadcast simutaneously so one can run HDMI to one TV and HDMI to the other. HDMI gives the best signal. Component is an analog signal.

H21,HR23 receivers can also decode 3D if they are connected to a 3D HD TV.

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Component is an analog signal

Wrong! The Y Pb Pr Component output on a HD receiver puts out a HD signal.
But you do have to use the RCA L & R audio outputs or the Digital Audio Optical with them. And I don't think most users will be able to see the difference in the HD picture between those outputs.

The HD receivers also have a S-Video output and it is Analog.

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I don't know of an inmotion dome that receives HD on Directv. Some did such as Kingdome, but utilized and optional splitter to recieve HD on Sat 110 for Directv, but that no longer works as they are moving HD signals, hince the 5 LNB array

There is no in motion or stationary Dome that can receive HD on DTV other then one that is KHV made to work on Marine boats. They are to tall for a RV use.

DTV has moved everything off the 109.8 and the 119 only has SD local channel's on it. All HD & 3D programs are now on the 99.2 & 102.8 satellites.
A few locals SD are also on the 72.5.

The 5 LNB array is only needed if your locals are on the 119 and some automatic dishes like the Trav'ler use the 109.8 & 119 to lock the dish on.

Otherwise for DTV a 3 LNB array will work for all HD and SD programs.

Max Hubrich · 12-15-2011, 07:53 AM

I think H.Huester, the starter of this thread , is using a DirecTv dish that is only hitting one non- HD satellite.- the 101 satellite.

He will not receive an HD signal until he uses a multi- satellite dish. He must then have a HD receiver from DirecTv and pay an extra monthly fee.

There is no reason to run 40-50ft HDMI cables anyplace, to get a HD signal if he has no HD signal available to any TV.

The obvious answer is to spend more money to upgrade the entire system, IE:

1- Install a second HD receiver in the bedroom- and run a short HDMI cable to the new HD TV. That's easy.

2- Run an extra cable from the LNB on the new satellite dish to the second bedroom Satellite receiver- a little more involved, but certainly doable. If you want to record and watch TV on either TV at the same time, you'll need yet another cable from the dish LNB to a DVR satellite HD receiver.

3- You need to do nothing, when installing a new HD TV in your rig and using the Bat Wing antenna mounted on the roof of your rig, if near, a useable "over the Air" digital signal- that is transmitting an HD signal.

This whole process can be money consuming. One just has to make the initial decision which way does he want to go.

We spend almost 10 months a year in the Motor Home. It was a very easy decision for me to make- "Pedal to the Metal!"

Here is my old thread on this upgrade.- Make sure you go to the all the way to the end of this thread to see the Winegard Trave'ler antenna I had installed. Also added a 32" Sony to the front TV. A 26" TV was just too small in the front for these old eyes.

HHIDan · 12-15-2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Triker56

Wrong! The Y Pb Pr Component output on a HD receiver puts out a HD signal.

Component is HD capable but it is still an analog signal. It is limited to 720P.
HDMI is both HD and digital and it goes all the way to 1080P.

Dish signals and Cable TV don't go to 1080P yet (as far as I know). Stuff like an XBOX does 1080P.

FlyingDiver · 12-15-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DBeauchamp

Component is HD capable but it is still an analog signal. It is limited to 720P.
HDMI is both HD and digital and it goes all the way to 1080P.

Dish signals and Cable TV don't go to 1080P yet (as far as I know). Stuff like an XBOX does 1080P.

Actually, component will do 1080i. It won't do 1080p.

Satellite can go to 1080p, depends on the programming and receiver. Not sure about cable, probably the same (provider dependent).

joe

TechWriter · 12-17-2011, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingDiver

Actually, component will do 1080i. It won't do 1080p.

Satellite can go to 1080p, depends on the programming and receiver. Not sure about cable, probably the same (provider dependent).

Component is on its way out -- it will be phased out of new equipment & "flags" (i.e., ICT) can be used to lower the resolution of a component signal.
Goodbye, HD component video: Hollywood hastens the 'analog sunset'

firedoc · 12-17-2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyingDiver

No. You can't use a distribution box to split satellite signals.

joe

Can you use a 211K to split the HD satellitte signal. IE take the video to tv and the audio to sound system? Television does not have an audio out

lonestarace · 12-18-2011, 07:06 AM

Yes, there is a digital audio out port on the 211

HHIDan · 12-18-2011, 07:25 AM

If you only have one coax cable coming from the dish you can only feed one receiver. From the receiver there are different ways to "distribute" the same channel to multiple TVs. If you have two coax cables coming down from the dish then you can feed two receivers and these two receivers can watch different channels. no splitters required. If you want to run more than 2 receivers, you can install a "switch" (the two coax connect to the switch and the switch feeds the receivers).

mikelm48 · 12-18-2011, 07:32 AM

I just had Dish setup in my house this week. They also setup and left me with a 222K receiver. I have one in my house and it does HD at the main TV and SD at the 2nd TV. This is OK for my MH rear tv since it is only 22". I have not installed in the MH yet, but am hoping this will work. Will I be able to put the SD signal through my signal switch at the front of the coach?

TechWriter · 12-18-2011, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mikelm48

I just had Dish setup in my house this week. They also setup and left me with a 222K receiver. . . Will I be able to put the SD signal through my signal switch at the front of the coach?

Yes, via the "Home Distribution" coax. You'll need to split the incoming LNB cable to the 2 tuners on the back of the 222k with a Separator. I think it ships with each dual tuner. If not, they're readily available:
Amazon.com: Dish Network DPP Separator: Electronics