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Old 11-11-2019, 10:53 AM   #1
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How far West will the Traveler see 61.5?

If I keep my Traveler set to seek the 61.5 satellite from the Eastern Arc how far west can we travel before loosing the 61.5?

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61.5 covers everywhere in the continental USA and PR. However as you go west the elevation angle gets lower and lower in the sky, making finding a compatible location to receive harder. Local TV markets on 61.5 spot beams go as far west as Montana and West Texas.
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61.5 covers everywhere in the continental USA and PR. However as you go west the elevation angle gets lower and lower in the sky, making finding a compatible location to receive harder. Local TV markets on 61.5 spot beams go as far west as Montana and West Texas.
Thinking about getting the travler with Dish and really don't understand this "east and west Arc" thing. From what you are saying if you have a east coast set-up you are out of luck on the west coast or do you just switch somehow to the western arc by changing your location?
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Thinking about getting the travler with Dish and really don't understand this "east and west Arc" thing. From what you are saying if you have a east coast set-up you are out of luck on the west coast or do you just switch somehow to the western arc by changing your location?
The Trav'ler comes setup with the Western arc sats. You can manually set it to receive only the 61.5 Eastern arc sat with the control box. I did this three times on my previous trip when the Western arc sats were blocked by trees.
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61.5 covers everywhere in the continental USA and PR. However as you go west the elevation angle gets lower and lower in the sky, making finding a compatible location to receive harder. Local TV markets on 61.5 spot beams go as far west as Montana and West Texas.
Thanks, that tells me what I need to know.

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If I keep my Traveler set to seek the 61.5 satellite from the Eastern Arc how far west can we travel before loosing the 61.5?
If you now get your local TV stations on 61.5, after a few hundred miles of travel, you'll lose your local stations. You will get 61.5 for some programming, but you won't get your locals.

Here's a DISH Western/Eastern Arc Tutorial.

Since most DISH markets use the Western Arc sats for their HD locals, you should stick with the Travler's default Western Arc, not the Manual mode. In general the few markets that use the Eastern Arc sats exclusively for HD locals are sprinkled in the East and MidWest. Here's a map:

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If you now get your local TV stations on 61.5, after a few hundred miles of travel, you'll lose your local stations. You will get 61.5 for some programming, but you won't get your locals.

Here's a DISH Western/Eastern Arc Tutorial.

Since most DISH markets use the Western Arc sats for their HD locals, you should stick with the Travler's default Western Arc, not the Manual mode. In general the few markets that use the Eastern Arc sats exclusively for HD locals are sprinkled in the East and MidWest. Here's a map:

The reason I decided to keep the Traveler in the Manual 61 mode is because my locals were SD on the Western Arc. Maybe I did something wrong but they did not fill out the television screen and the picture was a poor quality. When looking at the locals on the 61 bird they were high definition just like the other channels.

Zooming in on the map I see that Knoxville TN, where my locals are, is indeed standard definition on the Western Arc and high definition on the Eastern Arc. There is no way I am going to watch my locals in SD unless there is no other option, like when there is no OTA or the Eastern Arc is to low in the sky and we have to shift to the Western Arc.

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If you now get your local TV stations on 61.5, after a few hundred miles of travel, you'll lose your local stations. You will get 61.5 for some programming, but you won't get your locals.

Here's a DISH Western/Eastern Arc Tutorial.

Since most DISH markets use the Western Arc sats for their HD locals, you should stick with the Travler's default Western Arc, not the Manual mode. In general the few markets that use the Eastern Arc sats exclusively for HD locals are sprinkled in the East and MidWest. Here's a map:

I love this map! It answers a LOT of questions on trying to get locals as we travel. I found out that the Dish Network people I chat with when getting the locals changed do not know that locals may not be available when viewing the Eastern arc. In fact several of the Dish peopke didn't even know there was a Eastern Arc!

Do you happen to have a footprint map showing where each spot beam is effective?
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If you now get your local TV stations on 61.5, after a few hundred miles of travel, you'll lose your local stations. You will get 61.5 for some programming, but you won't get your locals.

Here's a DISH Western/Eastern Arc Tutorial.

Since most DISH markets use the Western Arc sats for their HD locals, you should stick with the Travler's default Western Arc, not the Manual mode. In general the few markets that use the Eastern Arc sats exclusively for HD locals are sprinkled in the East and MidWest. Here's a map:

I love this map! It answers a LOT of questions on trying to get locals as we travel. I found out that the Dish Network people I chat with when getting the locals changed do not know that locals may not be available when viewing the Eastern arc. In fact several of the Dish peopke didn't even know there was a Eastern Arc!

Do you happen to have a footprint map showing where each spot beam is effective?
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I love this map! It answers a LOT of questions on trying to get locals as we travel. I found out that the Dish Network people I chat with when getting the locals changed do not know that locals may not be available when viewing the Eastern arc. In fact several of the Dish peopke didn't even know there was a Eastern Arc!

Do you happen to have a footprint map showing where each spot beam is effective?



Yes, I would also be interested in a spot beam map of coverage in different parts of the lower 48.

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How far West will the Traveler see 61.5?

Satellite guys web site used to do that. Put in your market and see the approximate beam on a map. See the East or west beam pattern Very useful for selecting which “local” to pick for my next few days travel. The data was no longer updated for the past few years and now no longer works. I know of no similar easy to use click and look site. If someone does find something easy speak up. I should have printed / downloaded the maps years ago , but it was too easy to pick Tennessee, then Knoxville then see the satellite transponder the locals were on click it and see the map. Now I just quess or just put in my current location and change it more frequently.
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Satellite guys web site used to do that. Put in your market and see the approximate beam on a map. See the East or west beam pattern Very useful for selecting which “local” to pick for my next few days travel. The data was no longer updated for the past few years and now no longer works. I know of no similar easy to use click and look site. If someone does find something easy speak up. I should have printed / downloaded the maps years ago , but it was too easy to pick Tennessee, then Knoxville then see the satellite transponder the locals were on click it and see the map. Now I just quess or just put in my current location and change it more frequently.
This web page has helped me determine which satellite is showing the HD locals. It's probably out of date too, but better than nothing.

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I'll add my two cents. I had Direct Tv with my Traveler and was told I wouldn't be able to see my local channels(Wash. D.C.) once I hit the road. I was able to watch them from Harrington, Me. to south Fl.. I was told it was impossible, and rather than argue about it I just said OK and hung up the phone.
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