King Dome and HD Direct TV compatibility

[Vtxbiker]

Helllo, the dish searches continuously ,never stops and I am monitoring the signal strengths. All stay a 0.

Originally Posted by TVforMyRV

First, when you say it doesn't work, what exactly doesn't happen? Does it search, find a satellite and stop? Or does it search continuously and never stop?

I don't think the 9702 has any DBS circuitry to determine which sat it is pointed to, meaning that it searches until it finds a signal and tunes to that signal, regardless of which satellite it is. At that time if you don't see and TV, you're supposed to press the search button to look for another one. It is hit and miss until it randomly locks on to the correct satellite. That is why there is not Dish versus Direct setting, it simply doesn't know or care.

[TVforMyRV]

OK. So I'm assuming the LED on the KD status panel flashes RED and never flashes GREEN?

The antenna needs voltage from the receiver to power the LNBs. The SWM only receivers (H25) don't provide that voltage, it comes from the power inserter and the SWM8. Continuous searching could be caused by "no voltage to the LNBs" or another problem in the antenna itself.

At this point the problem could still be either the antenna or the SWM kit wiring. Here is a SWM wiring guide that you can print out and use it to double check your SWM8 and power inserter connections. Use the diagram on page 5. t this point the GREEN LED on the power inserter should be a steady green.

After you verify the wiring is correct, then you could check for 13 - 18 volts at the coax end where they attach to the antenna. With the power inserter "ON". Disconnect the coax from the antenna and check between the center conductor and the outer ring for 13 - 18 volts. If you have 13 - 18 volts on both coax ends, then you've pretty well narrowed the problem to the antenna.

[Vtxbiker]

Hey thanks, that is the diagram I used for wiring. I only used one reciever so the splitter was not used and I only connected one output from the antena to the switch. The power supply is the 29volt and is supplying power. I am getting a D12 reciever from a friend to see if it will work with the antena tommorrow. At this point I am not sure this setup will work at all.

Originally Posted by TVforMyRV

OK. So I'm assuming the LED on the KD status panel flashes RED and never flashes GREEN?

The antenna needs voltage from the receiver to power the LNBs. The SWM only receivers (H25) don't provide that voltage, it comes from the power inserter and the SWM8. Continuous searching could be caused by "no voltage to the LNBs" or another problem in the antenna itself.

At this point the problem could still be either the antenna or the SWM kit wiring. Here is a SWM wiring guide that you can print out and use it to double check your SWM8 and power inserter connections. Use the diagram on page 5. t this point the GREEN LED on the power inserter should be a steady green.

After you verify the wiring is correct, then you could check for 13 - 18 volts at the coax end where they attach to the antenna. With the power inserter "ON". Disconnect the coax from the antenna and check between the center conductor and the outer ring for 13 - 18 volts. If you have 13 - 18 volts on both coax ends, then you've pretty well narrowed the problem to the antenna.

[TVforMyRV]

You need to connect BOTH coax cables from the antenna to the SWM-8.

The D12 should work with only one coax, and remove the SWM-8 and power inserter.

[Vtxbiker]

Ok I got the D12 from a friend and got the dish to lock on and work with it. Now I know the King Dome is working! I am going to try the HD reciever again tomorrow with both cables connected to the multiswitch. I need more cable to get the bedroom cable up front. I still don't understand why both have to be connected though?

Thanks

Originally Posted by TVforMyRV

You need to connect BOTH coax cables from the antenna to the SWM-8.

The D12 should work with only one coax, and remove the SWM-8 and power inserter.

[docj]

Originally Posted by Vtxbiker

Ok I got the D12 from a friend and got the dish to lock on and work with it. Now I know the King Dome is working! I am going to try the HD reciever again tomorrow with both cables connected to the multiswitch. I need more cable to get the bedroom cable up front. I still don't understand why both have to be connected though?

Thanks

The LNB tunes to different channels depending on which of two voltages it receives. The two cables are needed to provide both voltages so that any receiver connected to the SWM8 can access all the available channels.

[Vtxbiker]

Ok the D12 worked with the King Dome 9702.

My H24 still will not work. I have been able to get the King Dome to lock on to the 101 satellite but the light has a geen and red color. The reciever still shows 0 signal strength on all 32. I did connect both cables from the Dome to the swm switch as shown in the drawing and it did not make a difference. The King Dome will lock on to the satellite with one or both cables connected now. I do not know what the difference is now . All I did was connect the D12 and get it working, then tried the H24 again? I hate to give up but I don't seem to be able to make it work!

Thanks for the help!

Originally Posted by TVforMyRV

You need to connect BOTH coax cables from the antenna to the SWM-8.

The D12 should work with only one coax, and remove the SWM-8 and power inserter.

[TVforMyRV]

Originally Posted by Vtxbiker

Ok the D12 worked with the King Dome 9702.

My H24 still will not work. I have been able to get the King Dome to lock on to the 101 satellite but the light has a geen and red color. The reciever still shows 0 signal strength on all 32. I did connect both cables from the Dome to the swm switch as shown in the drawing and it did not make a difference. The King Dome will lock on to the satellite with one or both cables connected now. I do not know what the difference is now . All I did was connect the D12 and get it working, then tried the H24 again? I hate to give up but I don't seem to be able to make it work!

Thanks for the help!

A couple possibilities.

Unlikely, but the SWM8 or the PI could be defective.

You say you got the antenna to lock onto 101. How do you know it was the 101 satellite? If the dome locked onto say 110, then you would not show any signal strength on the H24. Try pressing the "Search" button on the Sat controller and let it look for another satellite and see what happens.

[Vtxbiker]

The pi is ok, I checked the voltage with DVM.
Hard to tell about the SWM8, but it is brand new. I know in this day and time new doesen't always mean good!! It is locking on to two satelittes. I can turn on the King Dome by holding the on button for a few secs and it will start blinking red and then blinks green then turns solid green. Then I push the rocker switch on the 101 position and it will start blinking red again and then blink green then it will go solid green with a red tint. I am assuming it has locked on to two different satellites? The 101 is the one I need ,correct? That is the one the D12 needs also and it worked, right? Not sure about the red tint?

I brought the H24 back inside the house and connected it back to the HD dish and noticed that when it went through its check it prompted me to hold down abutton on the remote to make the reciever go to SD mode. It did not do that out on the RV. I did do it and am wondering if now it would do anything different? I can't remember exactly how it was stated but something like what I said above. Does that make any sense?

Thanks for hanging with me on this!

Originally Posted by TVforMyRV

A couple possibilities.

Unlikely, but the SWM8 or the PI could be defective.

You say you got the antenna to lock onto 101. How do you know it was the 101 satellite? If the dome locked onto say 110, then you would not show any signal strength on the H24. Try pressing the "Search" button on the Sat controller and let it look for another satellite and see what happens.

[TVforMyRV]

You did have the H24 antenna type set to 18" round and SWM right?

[wa8yxm]

WHile I have not downloaded the manual for YOUR sat dome.

Some of them are programmable, for Dish or DirecTV, This may be done via DIP switches (Do you know what DIP means... I do), or by multiple pushes of one or more buttons, or by a computer upload of software and/or commands.. Depending on the make and model of the dome, and again I have not read the manual for YOUR dome so do not know the procedure.

DIP means Dual, Inline, Package
It refers to the two lines of "Terminals" on the switches.

[docj]

Originally Posted by wa8yxm

WHile I have not downloaded the manual for YOUR sat dome.

Some of them are programmable, for Dish or DirecTV, This may be done via DIP switches (Do you know what DIP means... I do), or by multiple pushes of one or more buttons, or by a computer upload of software and/or commands.. Depending on the make and model of the dome, and again I have not read the manual for YOUR dome so do not know the procedure.

DIP means Dual, Inline, Package
It refers to the two lines of "Terminals" on the switches.

If his KingDome worked with the D12 receiver then it is already set for DirecTV. He doesn't need to do anything to his dish.

[Vtxbiker]

Yes , 18' ROUND AND SWM. I talked to the King Dome people about the setting for DTV or Dish and they said there is no DIP or programming to be done.

Originally Posted by TVforMyRV

You did have the H24 antenna type set to 18" round and SWM right?

[Spadman]

The Owner's Manuals for my 2013 Winnebago Adventurer (which I bought used) says that the King Dome antenna is delivered from the WBGO factory in the Dish TV mode.

There is a procedure in the Supplemental Manual to reprogram the King Dome for DirecTV (non-HD) reception on Satellite 101. After going through the DirecTV configuration procedure for the Dome (because I didn't know how the previous owner had left it), and finding only a single (one) RG6 75 ohm coax coming from the Dome to my entertainment cabinet, I attached the single coax to the HR44-500 HD Genie receiver brought from home. I was able to get a DirecTV screen that indicated it was download settings - except it never did.

That was when I discovered that my HD receiver requires a SWM. My installation at home uses an HD elliptical dish which has its own SWM LNB. In my attic, I have the 21 volt Power Inserter (used only with SWM LNB) and the DirecTV splitter. I have discovered that a separate SWM8 requires the 29 volt Power Inserter.

So I have bought a SWM8 and the 29 volt PI online and expect that I will be able to get the HR44 receiver to work. The alternative would be to buy a non-HD receiver and, in that case, I guess I wouldn't need the SWM8.

Throughout this trip, I have found that King Dome Customer/Tech Services has been very willing to answer questions.