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Old 03-20-2012, 12:08 PM   #15
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re: "Though he used what is called a "Pin-Diode" The fact is LED's do much the same thing."

yeah, a diode can make a great rectifier for your own 'crystal' type AM radio.

A PIN diode [wikipedia] is rather common when speed is needed (e.g. microwave frequencies).

but the example is related to what Jeff described. The diode is a non linear device in an RF field that produces interesting waveforms with components at many frequencies - i.e. an excellent noise generator. It doesn't take much lead length to serve as an antenna.

The key here, though, is that some RF signal is needed as a source for the interference. You can get intermod and noise via an LED (or even a loose connection anywhere in an electrical system) if you are parked close enough to a radio station or have some other rather strong RF signal in the rig but that isn't likely. What is more probable is a PWM device operating at a few kHz with a lack of attention to inhibiting its radiating a signal.

Note also that appliances like TV's are supposed to be able to handle reasonable levels of RFI. (they shouldn't freeze, for example). Solving the problem may well be in adding some filtering to what is being bothered as well as to what is doing the bothering.

note: some diodes are used as noise sources but in that capacity they always need an amplification of the noise in order to be useful in receiver testing and whatnot. Otherwise, the noise amplitude is too small to do much. It might be possible to get some sort of resonance effect or something, I suppose, but the energy involved is so small I am having trouble seeing a diode in a DC circuit as being a significant source of RFI problems by itself.
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I have a pocket full of 555s and a bin full of resistors and cap. Hmmmm....

So, what's wrong with regulating the voltage with a 7812 for a fixed output, to prevent flickering LEDs?



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re: "So, what's wrong with regulating the voltage with a 7812 for a fixed output, to prevent flickering LEDs?" -- you may not have enough overhead voltage for the 7812 to function properly in low battery conditions.

it also doesn't do the nifty dimming thing.

and what you are really after is current control, not voltage control.

I get tempted to play around with the 3 color LED strips with the fancy controllers that allow you to change the overall color to anything you want. It puts a whole new spin on mood lighting.
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Got it.



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I shouldn't say this in public, but it’s amazing what happens when you attach a couple pieces of wire ~6” long to a diode, go to a communications site, especially one with a good mix of radio and TV, jam one end into the ground, and let the other act as a whip antenna.


But back to the point.. It's not the LED's causing the problems here, it's the switchers driving them
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