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Old 09-12-2017, 07:42 AM   #15
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our Tailgater works EVERYWHERE, don't let the 'eastern arc' 'western arc' wording sway you - look at the fact that the bulk of portables are 'western arc' units... there's a reason for that.
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There's King Tailgaters and Dish Tailgaters and Pathfinders that seem similar
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For a low cost trial, watch Craigslist. I picked up a Tailgater (View Cube) and a Vip211K for $200. A $60 Costco hard drive and I have a DVR. Works Great.

Dish has a pay as you go plan starting at ~ $25 a month.

We have Dish in the S&B as there is no OTA or Cable in our area. Hopper & Joey.
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King makes the Tailgater. Dish offers the same King Tailgater with their name on it. The Pathfinder antennas (X1 and X2) are made by Winegard.

Your choice between the Tailgater and Pathfinder X1 (and maybe X2) will probably come down to their different mounting options.

All will work on the ground or tripod.

Tailgater has a removable roof mount option.

X1 has a permanent roof mount option and ladder mount.

X2 cannot be roof mounted.
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King makes the Tailgater. Dish offers the same King Tailgater with their name on it. The Pathfinder antennas (X1 and X2) are made by Winegard.

Your choice between the Tailgater and Pathfinder X1 (and maybe X2) will probably come down to their different mounting options.

All will work on the ground or tripod.

Tailgater has a removable roof mount option.

X1 has a permanent roof mount option and ladder mount.

X2 cannot be roof mounted.

That's great info in a nutshell.
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King makes the Tailgater. Dish offers the same King Tailgater with their name on it. The Pathfinder antennas (X1 and X2) are made by Winegard.

Your choice between the Tailgater and Pathfinder X1 (and maybe X2) will probably come down to their different mounting options.

All will work on the ground or tripod.

Tailgater has a removable roof mount option.

X1 has a permanent roof mount option and ladder mount.

X2 cannot be roof mounted.
So if you park under tree cover, then you have to undo your roof mount in order to move the dish, right?
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Maybe, maybe not. Depends on each situation.

Because of this, I think the Tailgater's detachable roof mount may give the best options. YMMV.
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Probably not on topic, but we have had a Winegard Carryout for about 7 years--it has performed very well over those years. The newer units are smaller and easier to store/move, but ours has been on the roof and just about anywhere else that can view the southern sky.
We keep it in the basement when on the move, and I've gotten used to the setout/putback procedure to where I put it out every stop overnight if we have power.
Permanent roof mount: much easier to put in use after stopping, but have to be parked where there is a view of the southern sky.
Portable: can be placed anywhere within 50' of the connection to trailer, but has to be set out/put back each move.
Have seen portables chained to some object but in the 7 years, we still have ours...
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We have the Dish Tailgater as shown in this link - https://kingconnect.com/product/king-tailgater-2/... we also have the VIP211Z receiver.. it works well in the Midwest (we live in WI)... I don't think you'll have any issues with reception..

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King makes the Tailgater. Dish offers the same King Tailgater with their name on it. The Pathfinder antennas (X1 and X2) are made by Winegard.

Your choice between the Tailgater and Pathfinder X1 (and maybe X2) will probably come down to their different mounting options.

All will work on the ground or tripod.

Tailgater has a removable roof mount option.

X1 has a permanent roof mount option and ladder mount.

X2 cannot be roof mounted.
Another tidbit.

The X2 is the ONLY portable which can do Eastern Arc...
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there can be some confusion between the 'Tailgater' models:

Tailgater - the original 'cube' style, no longer available from King

Tailgater2 - has TWO outputs(Main and secondary), and is the GRAY model, made by KING(VQ4500)

Tailgater3 - the newest 'DISH' branded WHITE model, made by KING(VQ4400), but only a SINGLE output
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Need a Satellite Dish

Update. I purchased a used King Tailgater (gray) from a nice fellow irv2'r on our way to our destination. I hooked it up called Dish Outdoors and it is up and running! Wife is a Happy Camper now I'm trying to figure out how to setup our favorites for quick viewing. Thank you to everyone for their input. Oh did I say I got a good deal on this purchase, thanks E and D!
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there can be some confusion between the 'Tailgater' models:

Tailgater - the original 'cube' style, no longer available from King

Tailgater2 - has TWO outputs(Main and secondary), and is the GRAY model, made by KING(VQ4500)

Tailgater3 - the newest 'DISH' branded WHITE model, made by KING(VQ4400), but only a SINGLE output
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As for reception with the Tailgater. I'm sitting just south of Portland, Maine and my aim chart says 251 degrees, almost straight west. Reception is great. It't an original model about four + years old. The only area we haven't tried it in is the far south east and if I can see the southern sky I can get a signal.
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