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Old 04-07-2019, 04:46 AM   #183
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Seems this leaked document by KING Dome satellite systems corroborates the KVH one as to what will eventually happen to Ku 101w....
Knew they would never make the announced timeframe. So...existing receivers and antennas will continue to work until at least December of 2020! Oops, April 2019 goes by the boards. Upgrade to MPEG-4 capable receivers by then and you will get HD on national channels from your KU dish.

Won't even see any HD on 101 until 2021!!!! My current receivers are dying (only one left out of 4) guess I need to pay them to move up to 24's...
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Seems this leaked document by KING Dome satellite systems corroborates the KVH one as to what will eventually happen to Ku 101w.

https://kingconnect.com/wp-content/u...NG_03.2019.pdf
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Old 04-07-2019, 09:30 AM   #185
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I received this from King. Don't think its a leak.
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Current setup

I have a rm-dm46 dual lnb crank up dish going to a 3x4 multiswitch then to 3 h24 receivers with diplexers. My question is is my current setup going to be fine after the changeover or will I need to change over to a swm8 fallowed by a MSPLIT8R1-03 spliter into diplexers for each tv run.
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I have a rm-dm46 dual lnb crank up dish going to a 3x4 multiswitch then to 3 h24 receivers with diplexers. My question is is my current setup going to be fine after the changeover or will I need to change over to a swm8 fallowed by a MSPLIT8R1-03 spliter into diplexers for each tv run.
Your current system should be fine, davehill.
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I know this has all been beat to death and I've read through and asked many questions along the way BUT....a friend was cleaning out his garage and he came across an older HR22-100 DVR. Is this Receiver compatible with a Round dish? Still talking just the RV now, the house is already set for HD but MH currently has two Round dish's(my real old Datron single LNB and Dual LNB in motion King Dome). This receiver still has the converters attached to the inputs on the rear panel.

If it is usable....what else would be required to receive the HD signal from the 101 Sat when the change over occurs?
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a friend was cleaning out his garage and he came across an older HR22-100 DVR. Is this Receiver compatible with a Round dish? If it is usable....what else would be required to receive the HD signal from the 101 Sat when the change over occurs?
The simple answer is yes, with the right configuration. Search for my posts earlier in this thread for the details. With an 18" round dish you will have to use a B-band converter. The dish configuration had to be changed every time I moved the HR22 from house to coach and back, and took a ridiculous amount of time. See my post in message #26 in this thread. Some doubted my statement but notice they called my receiver an H22, not the HR22-100 I used in my system. The home system also had a Genie DVR and a couple of Mini Genies while the coach was set up for the HR22-100 only.

Eventually I upgraded my tri-pod mounted dish to a Slimline so I could get HD in my coach. This was accomplished be purchasing a Slimline installation package from a local DTV installer. This included a new dish with appropriate LNB, required power inserter and SWM multiswitch. The configuration of house and coach now matched so it became as simple as plug and play with each move.

The main thing to remember is that in either configuration the last thing to connect during the setup process is the power cord to the receiver. If you ignore this one step it won't work!

As for your domes working as I described, I don't know. The HR22-100 should still work if the change over ever happens. I won't worry about it anyway since I recently dropped DTV as my provider. If anyone is the SoCal area is in need of a DTV slimline dish, tripod, power inserter and SWM multiswitch you can have them. I will not ship!
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The simple answer is yes, with the right configuration. Search for my posts earlier in this thread for the details. With an 18" round dish you will have to use a B-band converter.
FWIW compared to a receiver such as the HR44 Genie, the HR22 is an antique. It runs very hot and its response time is pathetically slow. When you activate it DirecTV is going to charge you the same monthly fee as they would for a newer unit. Unless you plan on only using it for a short period of time I'm not sure it's worth the trouble.
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The simple answer is yes, with the right configuration. Search for my posts earlier in this thread for the details. With an 18" round dish you will have to use a B-band converter. The dish configuration had to be changed every time I moved the HR22 from house to coach and back, and took a ridiculous amount of time. See my post in message #26 in this thread. Some doubted my statement but notice they called my receiver an H22, not the HR22-100 I used in my system. The home system also had a Genie DVR and a couple of Mini Genies while the coach was set up for the HR22-100 only.

Eventually I upgraded my tri-pod mounted dish to a Slimline so I could get HD in my coach. This was accomplished be purchasing a Slimline installation package from a local DTV installer. This included a new dish with appropriate LNB, required power inserter and SWM multiswitch. The configuration of house and coach now matched so it became as simple as plug and play with each move.

The main thing to remember is that in either configuration the last thing to connect during the setup process is the power cord to the receiver. If you ignore this one step it won't work!

As for your domes working as I described, I don't know. The HR22-100 should still work if the change over ever happens. I won't worry about it anyway since I recently dropped DTV as my provider. If anyone is the SoCal area is in need of a DTV slimline dish, tripod, power inserter and SWM multiswitch you can have them. I will not ship!
Thanks for all that info, you too Docj…..I am in So Calif and might be interested in your offer? I'm in Ventura county. As it stands right now, I'm still so confused as to what is going to be the best choice for me, I know I should probably just wait and see when this all comes to the forefront. I guess the reason so much of this is foreign to me as I waited forever to switch my home receivers out to HD...I know, I lived in the stone age well in the HD revolution so these B band converters and Multi switches is still pretty much French to me. Once again, Thank You all.
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I know this has all been beat to death and I've read through and asked many questions along the way BUT....a friend was cleaning out his garage and he came across an older HR22-100 DVR. Is this Receiver compatible with a Round dish? Still talking just the RV now, the house is already set for HD but MH currently has two Round dish's(my real old Datron single LNB and Dual LNB in motion King Dome). This receiver still has the converters attached to the inputs on the rear panel.

If it is usable....what else would be required to receive the HD signal from the 101 Sat when the change over occurs?
Looks like it is compatible with MPEG 4 and MPEG 2, which is required after the switchover. It seems to be an SWM receiver and the original small dishes are not SWM but multiswitched. There is a reasonably inexpensive conversion available but I believe it means you will need two coax cables between the converter and the dish.

You might try to connect it up to your home system and see if there is a multiswitch 18" option in the setup menu.
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Looks like it is compatible with MPEG 4 and MPEG 2, which is required after the switchover. It seems to be an SWM receiver and the original small dishes are not SWM but multiswitched. There is a reasonably inexpensive conversion available but I believe it means you will need two coax cables between the converter and the dish.
The HR22 supports both MultiSwitch and SWM modes. It does require 2 coax connections if you want to be able to record one channel while watching another. If you don't care about that, then one coax will work fine.
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Thanks for all that info, I am in So Calif and might be interested in your offer? I'm in Ventura county.
I wish I would have known that you live up here. I'm at Emma Wood right now and could have brought it up. From my sig you can see I'm about 100 miles from you when I'm not somewhere on the coast.

The above posts all contain correct info. The HR22-100 does support the 18" dish and multiswitch. It is agonizingly slow and takes about 20 minutes to boot up each time it is plugged in. And remember that a B-band converter is required.

If you are interested in my offer we can get together with your old HR22-100 and I can show you the steps to get it going. It will have to be activated through DTV before we can do that though. Just PM me if interested.
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Hello twinboat!

Thanks for posting this message! I am in the midst of my own research path and this info is so helpful!

Would you be so kind as to also supply the URL/address link provided in the message that King sent you regarding the sd/hd changes?

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