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07-31-2017, 04:32 PM
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Problem with 2nd Dish Network Receiver
We've got the factory installed Winegard Roadtrip Mission in motion satellite dish on the rooftop, and it is wired with 2 cables out of the dish, one that goes to the primary receiver, and another that goes to the cabinet in the bedroom. This dish can only see one satellite at a time. When we change channels to a channel that is on a different satellite, the antenna moves to look at a different place in the sky. We have been using a Dish Network VIP211z receiver for the TV's in the front of the coach with no issues. Yesterday I connected and activated a second 211z for the bedroom TV.
The secondary receiver does not control the dish, so it only see's the satellite that the primary receiver is getting. If we tune the primary receiver to a channel on a different satellite, the secondary receiver loses signal. In order to get reception again on the secondary, I have to go through the point dish procedure, the aquiring signal procedure and the program guide download. This can take 15+ minutes. The manuals for the dish and receivers don't seem to have any special instructions for setting up dual receivers.
Is this the normal process for using two receivers on the Dish network with a Roadtrip Mission dish? It sure takes a long time to get a signal when we want to change channels. I was hoping there is some secret in setting up the secondary receiver so that it can see whatever satellites it is being fed, instead of having to do the "point dish" setup every time we change channels.
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07-31-2017, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by chindog
We've got the factory installed Winegard Roadtrip Mission in motion satellite dish on the rooftop, and it is wired with 2 cables out of the dish, one that goes to the primary receiver, and another that goes to the cabinet in the bedroom. This dish can only see one satellite at a time. When we change channels to a channel that is on a different satellite, the antenna moves to look at a different place in the sky. We have been using a Dish Network VIP211z receiver for the TV's in the front of the coach with no issues. Yesterday I connected and activated a second 211z for the bedroom TV.
The secondary receiver does not control the dish, so it only see's the satellite that the primary receiver is getting. If we tune the primary receiver to a channel on a different satellite, the secondary receiver loses signal. In order to get reception again on the secondary, I have to go through the point dish procedure, the aquiring signal procedure and the program guide download. This can take 15+ minutes. The manuals for the dish and receivers don't seem to have any special instructions for setting up dual receivers.
Is this the normal process for using two receivers on the Dish network with a Roadtrip Mission dish? It sure takes a long time to get a signal when we want to change channels. I was hoping there is some secret in setting up the secondary receiver so that it can see whatever satellites it is being fed, instead of having to do the "point dish" setup every time we change channels.
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You need to connect the secondary receiver to the SAT 1 coax and run the Check Switch routine and let it down load any new firmware needed. Once this is done then reconnect it to the SAT2 coax and it should work as intended, or switch receivers since the main receiver is already fully programmed and make it the secondary.
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07-31-2017, 05:26 PM
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That is the joy of a single LNBF dish. Only one receiver can control the dish.
We started with a single LNBF auto dish and after a month, started to put up a ground tripod with a triple LNBF head. Both receivers could watch any satellite. Good tools make the setup a matter of minutes.
After 7 years, we got a Winegard Trav'ler.
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07-31-2017, 05:53 PM
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This is correct. There is nothing wrong with your system, it's the limitation of your satillite system. I have the same system.
I've gone to a dish mounted on a tripod like Dale did. I till like the in motion system for when we're on the road. Keeps the passengers busy. Personally, I'd hesitate to go with the Trav'lr. It's a great system if you do not have any obstructions when parked. Most of the campgrounds I go to have lots of trees and my rooftop antenna is frequently obscured. The tripod setup with 100' of dual coax seems to be pretty much the bulletproof setup. Once you figure out how to align it quickly.
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Originally Posted by Dale & Mark Bruss
That is the joy of a single LNBF dish. Only one receiver can control the dish.
We started with a single LNBF auto dish and after a month, started to put up a ground tripod with a triple LNBF head. Both receivers could watch any satellite. Good tools make the setup a matter of minutes.
After 7 years, we got a Winegard Trav'ler.
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07-31-2017, 07:06 PM
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Thanks for the info, everyone! Since we also have a Pathway X2 for when we are in heavy tree cover, I'll plug the secondary into that for firmware updates. That will also work for times we are staying more than just an overnight.
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07-31-2017, 10:09 PM
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Since you have a Pathway carryout, you can use the two receivers independently. It's a little more effort, but hook the carryout to your second receiver through the tripod input, then use your other receiver from the rooftop dome. I did that for a while with my Allegro RED, but decided to go with a Travler on our new coach.
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08-01-2017, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Lt Dan
Since you have a Pathway carryout, you can use the two receivers independently. It's a little more effort, but hook the carryout to your second receiver through the tripod input, then use your other receiver from the rooftop dome. I did that for a while with my Allegro RED, but decided to go with a Travler on our new coach.
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This is what I am doing tonight, and for the next two weeks while we are in this park. It was nice to be able to watch the outside TV, while a different channel on a different satellite was on in the living room.
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