SWM box for direct TV

[jerichorick]

Originally Posted by docj

There are plenty of Winegard Trav'lers that have been upgraded to SWM with no problems whatsoever, mine included. There is no reason for the upgrade to have caused your unit to fail unless it was done incorrectly somehow. Winegard wouldn't sell an upgrade kit if it caused failures.

When I called Winegard about the problem and they said that their systems would not work on SWM. There was no upgrade kit. My Trav'lers was not too old so I guess this was about 4 years ago? Things have changed over the past few years. I can't say if the older dish systems can be upgraded to SWM. As I understood, the older technology I had would not function for detecting the satellites through the SWM LNB system. GPS problem?? This new system I have on this coach works great. The dish setup on the roof looks almost the same but not quite. The base is a little different. Again, Winegard may have a new to me kit for upgrading the folks with the older dish setup system.

[bukzin]

Originally Posted by vandog

Thanks Rick.....I have the in motion winegard satellite system.

What is the model number on both your dish and receiver box?

[vandog]

My receiver is direct TV model 12D-100 and a wine guard in motion...2014 year not sure of the model.

[docj]

Originally Posted by jerichorick

When I called Winegard about the problem and they said that their systems would not work on SWM. There was no upgrade kit. My Trav'lers was not too old so I guess this was about 4 years ago? Things have changed over the past few years. I can't say if the older dish systems can be upgraded to SWM. As I understood, the older technology I had would not function for detecting the satellites through the SWM LNB system. GPS problem?? This new system I have on this coach works great. The dish setup on the roof looks almost the same but not quite. The base is a little different. Again, Winegard may have a new to me kit for upgrading the folks with the older dish setup system.

I'm not sure who you spoke to at Winegard but you clearly were given some bad information. My Trav'ler is 4 years old and we had no problem upgrading it. Here's Winegard's guide for converting most of their products for use with SWM: http://www.winegard.com/kbase/upload/2452242.pdf

[Triker56]

Originally Posted by jerichorick

When I called Winegard about the problem and they said that their systems would not work on SWM. There was no upgrade kit. My Trav'lers was not too old so I guess this was about 4 years ago? Things have changed over the past few years. I can't say if the older dish systems can be upgraded to SWM. As I understood, the older technology I had would not function for detecting the satellites through the SWM LNB system. GPS problem??

The one I converted to SWM was a old one. Probably one of the first models.
Installed May 2008. It is so old, it only had 3 cable outputs not 4 like later models.

I had to run another cable from the LNB and wrap it around the base to account for the turning of it.

Maybe the GPS?? in it is why mine doesn't lock on to the strongest signal all the time. But it does function.

[Winegard1]

Originally Posted by vandog

It won't let me make those changes, so I guess I need to reroute my cables with out the SWM box....then make those changes. I am thinking Dome to Splitter to receivers then to TV's.

If you re-route your cables without the SWM box, make sure you are not using any splitters in between the dome and the D12 receiver.

[jerichorick]

Originally Posted by docj

I'm not sure who you spoke to at Winegard but you clearly were given some bad information. My Trav'ler is 4 years old and we had no problem upgrading it. Here's Winegard's guide for converting most of their products for use with SWM: http://www.winegard.com/kbase/upload/2452242.pdf

Fantastic info. Thank you. When I bought this coach I had the latest Trav'ler installed. I think the folks at the RV dealer may have installed it incorrectly if I am reading your info correctly. I have the DVR Genie system and use Drectv. I have only 2 coax from the dish. Am I missing some satellites with this setup?

It is great having a Winegard rep chiming in.

[Winegard1]

Jerichorick,

I can verify that for you! First things first - what is the model of your Winegard Trav'Ler? It could be the SK-3003, or the SK-3005. If you got it 4 years ago, it will not be the newest SK-SWM3. You can find it on the front page of the manual, or if you PM me the serial number on the bottom of your IDU box (box that powers on your Trav'Ler) I can look it up in our database to see exactly what model it is.

[Winegard1]

Also jerichorick, if you have the Trav'Ler, it can definitely be used with the SWM receivers like the Genie. You would need to get a SWM multiswitch kit, and it would allow you to use those Genie receivers. The model number actually does not matter in this situation.

[vandog]

Lemar. ....If I understand you correctly ........Because of the SWM set up in my coach this is probably the reason I can't change the dish type and switch type in the direct TV settings. Therefore not allowing me to receive local stations. Jerichorick........any thoughts?
Your right.....having a winegard rep chiming in is awesome.

[Winegard1]

Originally Posted by vandog

Lemar. ....If I understand you correctly ........Because of the SWM set up in my coach this is probably the reason I can't change the dish type and switch type in the direct TV settings. Therefore not allowing me to receive local stations. Jerichorick........any thoughts?
Your right.....having a winegard rep chiming in is awesome.

Vandog,

Yes. Since you are using the SWM8 kit, your switch type will stay on 01: SWM. Your Dish Type needs to be set to 01: Round (18"). Using the SWM kits with a 2 output dome will only let you see satellite 101.

There could be two reasons why you are not getting your locals. If your locals are broadcasted in SD on satellite 101, you will be able to pick them up as long as you are within your local channel spotbeam. Local stations are spotbeamed in about a 150 mile radius of wherever your install address is. As soon as you travel outside of that spotbeam, you will lose all of your local stations. Some locals are only broadcasted in HD on satellites 99 or 103. Your in-motion dome's LNB is not capable of seeing these. If your locals are not broadcasted in SD on 101, you will not be able to see them. If the locals are broadcasted in SD on 101, you will need to be within the spotbeam to receive them. I hope this helps!

[jerichorick]

Originally Posted by Winegard1

Also jerichorick, if you have the Trav'Ler, it can definitely be used with the SWM receivers like the Genie. You would need to get a SWM multiswitch kit, and it would allow you to use those Genie receivers. The model number actually does not matter in this situation.

My dish was just installed last year. My previous coach had the older trav'ler. I have 4 ports on the base but I think the RV dealer, ie installer, used only 2 and terminated the others. (Don't recall exactly but I remember questioning this.) Is this a problem? The box he added says "ODU Only" with coax in and out plus the power plug. Itasca installed only one cable from what I can tell and it was under the roof. This was a virgin install.

[Winegard1]

Originally Posted by jerichorick

My dish was just installed last year. My previous coach had the older trav'ler. I have 4 ports on the base but I think the RV dealer, ie installer, used only 2 and terminated the others. (Don't recall exactly but I remember questioning this.) Is this a problem? The box he added says "ODU Only" with coax in and out plus the power plug. Itasca installed only one cable from what I can tell and it was under the roof. This was a virgin install.

jerichorick,
If you have the SK-3005, you will have up to 4 coaxial cables attached at the base ports A,B,C, & D. There is also one data cable that powers the antenna. If you use the SWM box with this, all four of those coaxial cables are going to run into the SWM box. Out of that SWM box will be one coaxial cable going down into the coach to your receiver(s).

If you have the SK-SWM3 Trav'Ler, you will have one coaxial cable plugged in at the base in port C, and the data cable to power the satellite antenna. This Trav'Ler is already installed with SWM technology and will not require the SWM box.


It's starting to sound like you have the SK-SWM3...

[vandog]

Ok Lemar .....I can not switch the dish type to 01 or 02 it is on 03 slimline. ...... so tomorrow I am going to disconnect the SWM system and the power inserter and reconnect the system the original way. I have two cables coming out of the winegard in motion satellite RF1 and RF2......where do I go from here...I have a D12-100 receiver a splitter and a Sony DVD system. The TV in the bedroom has it's own D12-100 receiver and the TV outside runs off the TV in the main salon.
I never should have had direct TV look at my system......thanks for all your help.
Capt. Jay