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10-22-2016, 06:28 AM
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The Future of DirecTV Satellite?
Here is an interesting article on the subject...
Short story is that AT&T is NOT married to satellite service. Under the [AT&T] timeline, set-top boxes and satellite dishes could be obsolete in three to five years...
Report: AT&T has set a timeline to phase out satellites and set-top boxes
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10-22-2016, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Sky_Boss
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That will be great. I will be able to watch streaming TV off of Google's LEO satellites while my autonomous vehicle drives me where I want to go.
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10-22-2016, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Sky_Boss
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Actually, if you go back and read through the "source documents" including the statements by AT&T's CEO, you will see that no specific phasing out of satellite service is proposed. All that is being stated is that the long-term objective of AT&T's service will be to provide customers with video via streaming but the CEO acknowledged that there are customers for whom satellite service will be needed past the nominal dates at which most others would be getting streaming service.
AT&T/DirecTV has an enormous sunk investment in satellites and is unlikely to simply throw that away. Furthermore, there are many DirecTV customers in rural parts of the country who will not be able to receive video via any other mechanism for many years. It's unlikely that those customers will be abandoned.
What will probably happen over time is that satellite service will become more expensive than whatever streaming service is offered and some cutbacks in satellite service may occur. For example, when the existing 101 satellite reaches its end-of-life it's possible that DirecTV will really terminate the SD channels that are broadcast from it rather than repurpose transponders on other satellites for that.
By the time the 5G cellular networks are widely available it might well be that virtually everyone in the country will have the bandwidth to stream all the video they want, but that day is still a ways away since even the frequencies used by 5G have yet to be allocated.
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10-22-2016, 08:05 AM
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I'm not sure for an RV this will be always the best. Many DirecTV customers have their service because they are in a rural setting without cable TV or decent if any cell service.
We have been many places where only 3G was available so how long before 5G (when it comes out) will work there.
I'm no big fan of DirecTV because they act like thieves with the misleading deals and pretending you have a contract while you do not but for our travels it fits. If they can use cell service to stream the TV content without high data usage charges and it works most everywhere, it will change how we view TV on the road.
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10-22-2016, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by HD4Mark
I'm not sure for an RV this will be always the best.
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I'm not arguing that this will necessarily be good for RVers, but I also don't think it will be an imminent problem. Personally, in another ~10 years I'll probably be too old to do much traveling, anyway!
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10-22-2016, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by docj
I'm not arguing that this will necessarily be good for RVers, but I also don't think it will be an imminent problem. Personally, in another ~10 years I'll probably be too old to do much traveling, anyway!
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To old? Speak for yourself. LOL
I think the one take away from the article is that things can and do change. I'm not terribly worried for my current set up but we are looking to upgrade. In that case I might want to consider Dish as an option if they appear to be more likely to stay in the market.
I think this could be analogous to the XM & Sirius sat radio situation. It would be a reasonable conclusion that the number of folks more reliant on satellite TV will dwindle.
Certainly the merger of AT&T with DirecTV would make it more likely that the goal to incorporate broadband systems a reasonable business plan. For those folks that aren't mobile and within acceptable broadband coverage it probably is not something to get all whacked out over. The advantage of high speed access with unlimited data would have some advantages.
However, as we experienced this summer with extensive time in the west, only a satellite dish gave us the TV programing we wanted and my Verizon data budget was, well, BUSTED! LOL
So, I think the point I would repeat is that new sat TV customers will need to consider the future with AT&T/DirecTV when making an equipment/service choice. I will ride this out with DirecTV until something forces a change.
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10-22-2016, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sky_Boss
However, as we experienced this summer with extensive time in the west, only a satellite dish gave us the TV programing we wanted.
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This is our problem on the other coast. Where we are for the winter in the Florida Keys an antenna gets you almost nothing. One local analog and one in Spanish. With no hills to put antenna on and the stations a long ways away it doesn't work. Can't get CATV at our site either. So satellite is the only option for now to even get local channels.
If that was not the case I think we would go with OTA while traveling and CG CATV when parked. The $60 a month we pay for the crappy DirecTV package isn't worth it.
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10-22-2016, 02:22 PM
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Sky_boss, actually Dish will probably not outlast Directtv, as they have already started to make the transition from satellite to streaming via Slingtv. We are probably less than five years away from broadband nation wide as spacex, Facebook, or Google all having their own flavor of providing the stream.
Things keep changing at a faster pace. So hang on, its going to be a bumpy ride. Heck I'm old enough to remember Bill Gates saying. 640 k of ram?? Who could possibly need more than that??
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10-28-2016, 06:11 PM
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Just yesterday I downloaded the DirecTV app to my Samsung S5 cell phone since I have AT&T and DirecTV. When I look at a live program it does not use my monthly data. I have been tracking that. I am truly amazed at the glitch free quality. I'm sure it must be streaming from a cell tower close by. Looking forward to trying it out on our next camping trip. The only drawback that I see right now is two of the local channels that I watch for local news are missing from the line up.
A question I have is would it be possible to feed the cell phone video into the camper TV?
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10-28-2016, 07:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigbird65
Just yesterday I downloaded the DirecTV app to my Samsung S5 cell phone since I have AT&T and DirecTV. When I look at a live program it does not use my monthly data.
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If you're streaming from your DirecTV box to another device (your phone) and not using broadband data, then I'll bet both your DirectTV box and your phone are on the same network.
If so, then when they're on different networks, you'll be using lots of broadband data.
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10-28-2016, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigbird65
A question I have is would it be possible to feed the cell phone video into the camper TV?
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Sort of depends on your phone. My Droid has a micro HDMI jack, so I can just run the cable to the TV. I am fortunate that I still have my unlimited account. If you can tether your phone to your router, you can use Chromecast.
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11-01-2016, 06:00 PM
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The last I heard was that by 2019 DirecTV will no longer offer SD programming - it will all be HD. Their SD birds are quickly approaching their "end of life" and will not be replaced. That's why direcTV has been pushing HD so hard lately...
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11-02-2016, 10:11 AM
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All of these offers for unlimited data or streaming are only applied to your smartphones. No tethering allowed. I don't know about everyone else, but I have no desire to watch TV on that tiny screen. Chuck
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11-02-2016, 03:14 PM
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I believe on AT&T tethering is permitted.
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