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Old 09-22-2017, 08:39 AM   #1
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Cool Verizon Wireless Changes

I have the unlimited Verizon plan, which is now called Beyond Unlimited. With the new plan, they upped the hotspot limit to 15GB .vs. the previous 10GB threshold.

I just returned from a trip, where I hit the 15GB threshold and they cut my speed to 3G or 600Kbps... Has nothing to do with a busy tower, it's a simple HARD STOP of your LTE usage at 15GB, when being used as a hotspot.

In the past, I have gone over the 10GB limit and never had any slowdown or been switched from LTE to 3G.

In a normal month [not traveling], I don't use much data, but when on the road, I use a lot.

This change has me wanting to research other plans and carriers for better data usage.

Anyone else having this problem with the new Beyond Unlimited plan on Verizon ??
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Our ATT hotspot has no such limits. It is just part of our cellphone plan and if we go over the plan (never have) we pay by the gig.
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Old 09-22-2017, 10:26 AM   #3
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My wifes phone is now at 70GB, most all on hotspot, speed now is 3.6/2.34.

I DO NOT use phones hotspot app, I use PdaNet app. Her past months usage averages well over 100GB, and we have nevered noticed any drastic slowing down.
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Old 09-22-2017, 10:40 AM   #4
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Jump Wireless

If you can force yourself to live with Sprint Coverage, Jump Wireless offers Sprint Unlimited/Unthrottled Data on a Hotspot for $15.75 total. They do say Sprint may "prioritize" during heavy traffic times when you go over 20 gb or so. I have not found this to be a problem in the Milwaukee area, but have not even approached 20gb. Usually have speed of 6 mbps minimum and sometimes 15 mbps. They are expensive to initate and buy the hotspot, but we have dropped our cable modem for a $48/month saving. We have actually had better luck streaming Netflix on the hotspot with less buffering than our 25mbps cable modem. Go figure.... "www.jumpwireless.com" I am not associated with them. btw - Their communication is non-existant. You order, hotspot shows up a few days later. Turn it on and you're running.
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I have the unlimited Verizon plan, which is now called Beyond Unlimited. With the new plan, they upped the hotspot limit to 15GB .vs. the previous 10GB threshold.

I just returned from a trip, where I hit the 15GB threshold and they cut my speed to 3G or 600Kbps... Has nothing to do with a busy tower, it's a simple HARD STOP of your LTE usage at 15GB, when being used as a hotspot.

In the past, I have gone over the 10GB limit and never had any slowdown or been switched from LTE to 3G.

In a normal month [not traveling], I don't use much data, but when on the road, I use a lot.

This change has me wanting to research other plans and carriers for better data usage.

Anyone else having this problem with the new Beyond Unlimited plan on Verizon ??
unless something has changed at VZW before we hit the road we change from the lowest data plan (usually 2 or 3gb) to the 16gb plan. you have to call to make the switch but all 16gb are at the 4g/LTE speed. and with unused data rolling over to the next month we find we have plenty of data for our needs.
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This change has me wanting to research other plans and carriers for better data usage.
When AT&T gets some more Mobley hotspots back in stock you can order the AT&T Connected Car standalone plan, $20/month unlimited data and no hard throttle (other than the 'we might temporarily deprioritize you above 22 GB on a busy tower' boilerplate that is on all carriers unlimited plans, but this is rarely if ever seen.)
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When AT&T gets some more Mobley hotspots back in stock you can order the AT&T Connected Car standalone plan, $20/month unlimited data and no hard throttle (other than the 'we might temporarily deprioritize you above 22 GB on a busy tower' boilerplate that is on all carriers unlimited plans, but this is rarely if ever seen.)
I'm not the OP but I've been checking every couple of days.
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We have the unlimited package, as well. I turn my hotspot on when I get home from work, then we watch netflix for 6 hours before bed almost every day. It has never slowed down.

I was told, as mentioned earlier, that if we were on a crowded tower, we might get slower service after 15 or 20 gigs, but we live on the side of a mostly secluded mountain well outside of town, and maybe they weren't kidding about that.

Maybe I will take my phone into town, turn on hotspot, and try netflix again, and see if it is slower if I am sharing the tower with MANY more people after I exceed my "unlimited" bandwidth...

BTW--since when does 15G = "unlimited"? Putting any number on the bandwidth instantly makes it "limited", am I right?
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I have also experienced near complete shutdown on Verizon when hitting my data "limit" for tethering. I've since moved to a set data amount that I can tether, as I require it for work. No such thing as "may" throttle - when tethered, it was shut down.

On the other hand, I have an ATT unlimited hotspot, as I've not switched to a Mobley yet, that I pay $90 a month. The fine print says over 22 GB can be throttled, however I have rarely experienced that. I do over 100 GB a month on it with no issues.

So, in my experience, ATT is much better for tethering. Verizon may be fine when just using the device, but they suck for tethering, even when your device is a hotspot.
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I have the unlimited Verizon plan, which is now called Beyond Unlimited. With the new plan, they upped the hotspot limit to 15GB .vs. the previous 10GB threshold.

I just returned from a trip, where I hit the 15GB threshold and they cut my speed to 3G or 600Kbps... Has nothing to do with a busy tower, it's a simple HARD STOP of your LTE usage at 15GB, when being used as a hotspot.

In the past, I have gone over the 10GB limit and never had any slowdown or been switched from LTE to 3G.

In a normal month [not traveling], I don't use much data, but when on the road, I use a lot.

This change has me wanting to research other plans and carriers for better data usage.

Anyone else having this problem with the new Beyond Unlimited plan on Verizon ??
We have the Verizon Unlimited plan which was rolled out in February called "The New Verizon Unlimited Plan" We have noticed just since our last payment a few days ago they have been counting down our usage allowance away from the 15GB Cap before we are throttled at 600KBS on two lines. This never occurred before since we transitioned from a tiered plan to Unlimited in March until a few days ago. Verizon's increase from 10GB hotspot 4GLTE high speed hotspot data to 15GB was really a decrease in disguise.
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We have the Verizon Unlimited plan which was rolled out in February called "The New Verizon Unlimited Plan" We have noticed just since our last payment a few days ago they have been counting down our usage allowance away from the 15GB Cap before we are throttled at 600KBS on two lines. This never occurred before since we transitioned from a tiered plan to Unlimited in March until a few days ago. Verizon's increase from 10GB hotspot 4GLTE high speed hotspot data to 15GB was really a decrease in disguise.
Yep, for a while they had a decent plan but I guess Verizon just can't stand actually being competitive. They since split it up into two plans, one overpriced and the other under-featured, advertising the change as being better for the consumer of course.
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What we did to get around Verizon tethering hard caps it to use an LTE router with a SIM I took out of an iPad I never really used. We went with a unit called Cradlepoint, a bit pricey but the data optimization and LTE (plus LTE advanced, or XLTE) reception is really beyond comparison.

I keep it wired into a small Apple wifi router and we use several devices on it simultaneously without the tethering complication. I used in excess of 35gb one month (oops) on my work laptop and didn't notice a change in speed.

If you spend a lot of time in your rig, and absolutely need data, definitely take a few moments to google Cradlepoint LET routers. It's serious equipment for serious needs.

https://cradlepoint.com/verizon

I use the AER1600 and love it.
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Dr Q, Verizon sent out announcements and press releases that they were going to start enforcing the 15gb limit several weeks ago. Widely reported on the Howard Forums and the folks at Technomadia did an article on their rvmobileinternet.com site.
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Dr Q, Verizon sent out announcements and press releases that they were going to start enforcing the 15gb limit several weeks ago. Widely reported on the Howard Forums and the folks at Technomadia did an article on their rvmobileinternet.com site.
They started enforcing the 10GB, now 15GB cap at first on Jetpacks several weeks ago and have just now a few days ago started enforcing the cap on smart phone mobile hotspots. Here's a link to an alert about it a few days ago from rvmobileinternet.com https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/ale...ed-data-plans/
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