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Old 08-15-2014, 09:19 AM   #1
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Will Hopper receiver act like a 211 receiver?

Can a Dish Hopper receiver temporarily operate like a 211 receiver. I currently have a Dish Traveler hooked to a 211z. I am considering putting the Hopper & Joey system in the RV.

Should the Dish Traveler not work for some reason, trees, etc, could I hook up my portable Dish 1000 and feed the Hopper receiver directly from the portable 1000 antenna via a single separate coax cable?

Just wondering if it will operate one TV like this?

Any thoughts?

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I am considering putting the Hopper & Joey system in the RV.

Should the Dish Traveler not work for some reason, trees, etc, could I hook up my portable Dish 1000 and feed the Hopper receiver directly from the portable 1000 antenna via a single separate coax cable?
You bet. There are a number of RVers with Hopper/Joeys in their RVs. Plus, several of us carry portable tripods for those times when we're parked under trees.

You can run either one or two coax cables from a portable tripod back to your RV. There are pros and cons with either method:

Single Coax Cable from dish to RV
- 2 Solo Nodes (one @ Travler, one @ portable dish) + Tap required
- 3 GHz coax cable required from Travler Solo Node to Tap
- 3 Ghz coax cable from Tap to Hopper
- 3 GHz coax cable required from Portable dish Solo Node to RV and to Tap
- AB switches should not be used to switch between the Travler and the portable dishes


Dual Coax Cables from dish to RV
- One Solo Node required (@ Travler)
- 3 GHz coax cable required from Travler Solo Node to Hopper
- AB switches can be used to switch between the Travler and the portable dishes

I think most of us would rather run just one coax cable from a portable dish to the RV. However, this must be 3 GHz-rated cable from the Solo Node at the portable dish right up to the Tap inside the RV.

While most RVs have an external cable connection that leads inside, the coax cable from that outside connection to the inside is probably 2 GHz coax, at best. So you'll either have to replace this coax with 3 GHz cable or just run the coax from the portable dish through a window.
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Tech, thanks for the info, but, I was thinking of just bypassing the node and hooking directly to the ,"To Node" input of the Hopper receiver. No Node, no splitters. Not sure what a "tap" is.

What do you think?

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Tech, thanks for the info, but, I was thinking of just bypassing the node and hooking directly to the ,"To Node" input of the Hopper receiver. No Node, no splitters.
You might be able to get 1 tuner. Let us know if you try it.


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Update. Swapped 211 with my house Hopper. Hopper works even better than a 211 receiver when connected directly to my portable dish 1000. No Nodes, no switches, nothing but a 75' of RG56 from the Dish antenna to the RV "cable in" connector and then to the Hopper Ant. connector. The HD picture is excellent on both TV's. I used the same A/B switch I've been using with the 211z

This setup is the same as I'm currently using with the 211k running two tv's watching the same channel on both.

I still had all the functions of the Hopper, DVR included. Also the Hopper controller is UHF so I no longer need the UHF/IR controller and receiver/xmitter box when watching from the bedroom tv.

My reason for doing this test is I don't want to run two cables from my portable 1000 dish when I can't use the Traveler because of trees. I will then watch both tv's on the same channel. Hope it doesn't happen very often. I will now install a full blown Hopper/Joey system in the MH.

Had I known this sooner before I got a Traveler, which now I wouldn't be without, I would have replaced my 211's a year ago with just a Hopper receiver. If you don't care about watching different channels on two TV's get just the Hopper w/o a Joey,Node or switches . You'll get a DVR and a lot of extras.

I may be missing something with my test but after swapping my RV 211z hooked to a Dish 1000 with my house Hopper I was very pleasantly surprised.

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Ps. That Hopper sure puts out some heat.
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Update. Swapped 211 with my house Hopper. Hopper works even better than a 211 receiver when connected directly to my portable dish 1000. No Nodes, no switches, nothing but a 75' of RG56 from the Dish antenna to the RV "cable in" connector and then to the Hopper Ant. connector. The HD picture is excellent on both TV's. I used the same A/B switch I've been using with the 211z.
Impressive!

Did you do a Hopper Check Switch and get all 3 tuners?


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Ps. That Hopper sure puts out some heat.
Yes, I would not recommend putting a Hopper (or any receiver) in an enclosed cabinet. Try USB fans from Coolerguys.com as the Hopper has 3 USB ports.
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No, I did not do the check switch. Didn't think of it but whish I had. I had a Tuner page pop up showing me the 3 tuners and only tuner 1 showed info, tuner 2 & 3 showed blanks. I didn't know what it meant so I skipped it. Tell me about the tuners.

I believe the Hopper will need a fan in the overhead cabinet even with door open as it is a lot hotter than a 211. I'm concerned about it and I will check out Cooler Guys. Do you think one usb fan will do it? 211's are fine with cabinet door open, however, sometimes I forget.

Is the hard drive durable enough for an RV environment?

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No, I did not do the check switch. Didn't think of it but whish I had. I had a Tuner page pop up showing me the 3 tuners and only tuner 1 showed info, tuner 2 & 3 showed blanks. I didn't know what it meant so I skipped it. Tell me about the tuners.
Having only 1 tuner means your Hopper is essentially a 211 with a hard disk.

When fully connected a Hopper has 3 separate tuners, which just means you have more DVR record options. For example, PTAT (Prime Time Any Time) uses 1 tuner all by itself.

Run the Check Switch test to make sure you have all 3 sats:
MENU button > Settings > Diagnostics > Point Dish > Check Switch > Test


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I believe the Hopper will need a fan in the overhead cabinet even with door open as it is a lot hotter than a 211. I'm concerned about it and I will check out Cooler Guys. Do you think one usb fan will do it? 211's are fine with cabinet door open, however, sometimes I forget.
I removed the front door of my AV cabinet, cut a hole in the back of it, and installed 4, 120cm fans. Here's my AV installation.


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Is the hard drive durable enough for an RV environment?
I think as long as you unplug it before starting to travel.
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