A NEW TIRE PRESSURE/TEMP SYSTEM

[OpaRon]

Has anyone compared the Advantage Pressure Pro tire pressure monitoring system with this one?

http://www.truckerspartstore.com/category-s/33.htm

It's called the Wireless Tire Pressure and Tire Temperature Monitoring System (WTPTTMS)

The WTPTTMS looks like it does the same thing as the Pressure Pro but is WAY cheaper. Another iRV2 buddy and I are trying to do our "due diligence" before buying, but neither us had ever heard of the system sold at TruckerPartStore.com

If anyone out there has compared the two systems, we'd love to hear about it.

OpaRon
2005 Dutch Star (4009)
2002 4Runner Toad

[OpaRon]

Has anyone compared the Advantage Pressure Pro tire pressure monitoring system with this one?

http://www.truckerspartstore.com/category-s/33.htm

It's called the Wireless Tire Pressure and Tire Temperature Monitoring System (WTPTTMS)

The WTPTTMS looks like it does the same thing as the Pressure Pro but is WAY cheaper. Another iRV2 buddy and I are trying to do our "due diligence" before buying, but neither us had ever heard of the system sold at TruckerPartStore.com

If anyone out there has compared the two systems, we'd love to hear about it.

OpaRon
2005 Dutch Star (4009)
2002 4Runner Toad

[offshore]

Looks good but have no info. on this unit. Let us know how you make out with it.

[OpaRon]

I don't think I'll buy the WTPTTMS. I also asked an independent rep for Advantage Pressure Pro why I should buy their product when this one seemed to the same thing, but a lot cheaper. Here is their reply, and it makes sense to me, since I was unable to find anything about the manufacturer of the product sold by TruckerPartStore.com

"On Jan 4, 2008 10:11 PM, <pressureprosystem@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Ron,

We have seen this product on the market before and asked our company engineers to take a look at it. I found out that Advantage PressurePro already knew about this system because they purchased one & tested it. Here is what they determined:

They ran testing on it for 90 days & found it to be great to start but failed rapidly. The Sensor is almost a mirror of ours, but doesn't perform the same at all & is using older chips from Freescaale. It worked fine for the first part of the test but failed within a short period which they estimated would be about 4 months of use. They are using parts that no longer are being made, especially the sensor pressure chip & the main chip. PressurePro has turned it over to their attorney to review for patent infringement. The system looks nice and the price is right but it has poor performance.

We have searched the web to try to find out who the manufacturer of this system is but so far nothing. If you can find some info about the manufacturer or their track record, we would appreciate it. I can tell you that Advantage PressurePro is here to stay and they will be here to take care of any problems you may have in the future. Mike and I have been using and selling the PressurePro system for over 4 years. We have been fulltiming for 13 years and take pride in providing excellent service before and after the sale to the RV community.

I applaud you for doing "due diligence" before purchasing a TPMS product. Please make sure you have done "due diligence" checking out this comparable product and the manufacturer before you spend this kind of money on their system. I can give you lots of names of satisfied PressurePro customers....I don't think you will find very many users or satisfied customers of the system you are comparing to PressurePro.

I hope this helps. Please let us know if we can answer any more questions or be of further assistance to you. Our phone number is: 850-294-0281.

Safe Travels,

Pat (and Mike)

Mike and Pat McFall, SKP40224
PressurePro Tire Monitoring System
PowerTank Air Systems
Waterless Car Wash & Polish
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[Tire Expert]

Hello,

I wanted to write this in response to Mike reply. I am the inventor and distributor of the TPTTMS everthing that Pat (and Mike) is written is totally inaccurate. I am not even sure how they got their information, but I am sure it has something to do with becoming a fictional author. There is no patent infringemnt issues in regard to Pressure Pro. Their patent is very specific in its wording and is not very specific about the relationship of tire pressure monitoring system. Alot of companies will issue a patent that is not specific only to publish that is patented. I curretly have seven patents and am very sure not to have infringment to other inventors due to the fact it has happened to our company. Our patent and continuation in part with the tire pressure tire temperature monitoring systems continuation in part has already been given a piliminary authorization in the patent office for the operation of our the technology of our system. Our system includes the functionality of both tire temperature and pressure in relation to the tire and ambiant air pressure, and the fluid charictoristics of pressure.

Now for the testing that was performed according to Pat and Mike have no way of knowing any way the testing of our system. That information can only be inaccurate because of we do not even use freescale chips. Freescale chips are manufactured for audio chips mostly for home stereos. But I guess since the name scale is there that is how they came up with pressure. I guess I dont know? But it sounds good.

Our system does not even use the same principles as pressure pro. If it did then they to "pressure pro" would be able to gather temperature information, but since they dont that elimates the scope of their patent. Also, we are in contact and are negotioating contracts with two of pressure pros distributors because they see the value of our system versus pressure pro's system. The way this response is written is only to persuade uninformed people to beleive they are continuing to improve their product and not show complacentcy with their own product. I think pressure pro makes a great system. They produce a fine product that perfoms well. But to say our product has failed miserably then we would not offer the type of warranty we do if we did not stand behind our product. Just viewing the warranty information between the two companies should show just how far we stand behind the craftmanship and quality that we possess. We have been in business for three years, and have only entered the RV market in the last 60 days. We have supplied trucking companies the same quality within those last three years, and are now proud to offer that technology to RV markets as well.

Todd

[FLYTYER]

Todd welcome to IRV2.


The outcome of this discussion between these 2 competitive systems will be realized by usage and reports by the users.

Product competition is good for the consumer as it drives the manufacturers to provide a better and more reliable product.

[OpaRon]

Todd,
I am the person who started this thread with the original question regarding comparing the two systems. I'd appreciate some more information on yours, since there's not a lot of background on the Trucker Store web site. Do you have a web site with more info, background, testing, etc? As I mentioned in my first post, a buddy and I are looking to buy a TPMS, and we are in no hurry, but would like more info on your system. How about some testimonials and POC info from current users, etc?

Thanks,
OpaRon
2005 Dutch Star DP 4009
2002 4Runner Toad

[John Hilley]

I also am interested. I would like to see the product. Are there any dealers in the Quartzsite area or is anyone showing them at the RV show?

[John Hilley]

Here is a press release on the product
Saf-Tee releases new tire monitoring system

[ROMAD]

FYI, FreeScale Semiconductor is the former Motorola Semiconductor. They were born out of Motorola's desire to separate the semiconductor operation into its own company (also a good time to cut all of the Motorola benefits for thousands of workers). They make semiconductors for the cellular industry, automotive, and automation industries.

[PressurePro]

Our best to all for the New Year. I'm Phil Zaroor, President of Advantage PressurePro. I was made aware of a letter in this forum from Todd, distributor of another TPMS product. We applaud Todd for his understanding of the value of tire pressure monitoring for safety and savings and I'd like to respond to his comments, some of which are inaccurate. PressurePro, founded in 1991, is one of the Original providers of TPMS products and the owner of several patents, provisional patents and pending patents. PressurePro is the Trademark owner of the PressurePro name and TPMS logo. If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, then we appreciate the compliment Todd gives us with his sensors. PressurePro has seen a number of products that are similar to and look like our Original product, but none work like PressurePro. We're flattered that so many firms, including Saf-TEE, want to copy the looks of our PressurePro product but the fact is, PressurePro is the original, it's proven with over 15 years of dependable service to the RV, trucking and industrial markets. PressurePro technology is unmatched in the industry.

I'd like to correct a few statements in the letter. Temperature does have a bearing on tire life and safety because it increases the pressure which can cause blowouts and zipper rips. PressurePro can display when this information is sent through our communications port to a PDA or laptop computer. Of more importance, we are a tire pressure monitor and with our variable high pressure alert, PressurePro will alert when pressures fall or increase, this being the main responsibility of a Tire Pressure Monitoring System. The upper alert is variable, set at the factory at 25psi high, can be set to alert when pressures increase from 10% to 45% high. All tire sensors have the capability to read temperature but with sensors outside the tire, temperature is compromised by the ambient temperature and high pressure alerts are a much more advantageous feature

I don't know Todd and I'm unsure of his background but comments on PressurePro's abilities are incorrect. Gaining "preliminary authorization"� does not ensure a patent, and while Saf-TEE has 3 years of experience, PressurePro, with 15 years of experience in this business, is here for the long run and brings a proven record of reliability, durability, accuracy and service to the TPMS market. I appreciate the kind words by Todd stating that "PressurePro makes a great system"� and "they produce a fine product that performs well"�. We appreciate and agree with these statements and pledge to continue to bring our high level of quality and service to the TPMS market. PressurePro is dedicated to being the best product in the market.

In a market of some 240 million vehicles (U.S. market), wasting some 2 billion gallons of fuel each year due to low tire pressure and adding some 57.5 billion pounds of carbon pollutants to the environment, we feel that the use of TPMS products will add greater safety and savings while assisting with less damage to the environment or wasting of resources. Vehicles represent a huge market, and our desire is to promote the safety, savings and environmental friendliness of tire pressure monitoring for all vehicles. To that end, we embrace the belief that your safety, the safety of your passengers, vehicle and others that share the road are paramount and we encourage the use of TPMS, be it PressurePro or others.

Forums such as this provide a tremendous service in informing the public and allowing each of us a voice and we appreciate the opportunity to be heard.

Regards,
Phil

PS: If I misinterpreted anything in Todd's note, I apologize and can only blame it on the inability of spell-check in not correcting a number of words I had to interpret.

Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems
Phillip G. Zaroor
President & CEO
Advantage PressurePro LLC
205 W. Wall St
Harrisonville, MO 64701
Tel: 816-887-3505
Fax: 816-887-3705
www.advantagepressurepro.com

[slabman]

Just to add a little more complexity to this issue, here is another system RVers might consider. I have no experience on this product, but wonder if others have used or heard of it?

http://trikor.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Pr...y_Code=TSG-TTPM-PxVx

[OpaRon]

Slabman, I looked at this system a few months ago and decided it just didn't strike me as up to date as the Advantage Pressure Pro. I just looked at the web site again, and got the same impression again. I was ready to buy the Pressure Pro from a Doran dealer when I found out that Doran is just a re-seller of the product, is selling out current stock of re-labeled TPMS from Advantage and will no longer sell the Advantage TPMS. Then a buddy came up with the product currently being "debated." (I really didn't mean to start a "vendor war" with my questions!) But, we're getting quite an ear full from the two vendors. So far, just from their comments on this thread, I'm leaning toward the Advantage Pressure Pro, even if it does cost a little more.
OpaRon
2005 DSDP (4009)
FMCA, NKK, PPA, WHR, ROD, ACN, GOOD SAM

[JWatkins]

I just installed it on my coach. The installation was easy and quick. Their setup is easy as well. It pointed out that I had a slow leak in one of my rear valve extensions right away. I tightened it up and I am good to go. Very re-assuring to have that readout. The unit will warn if there is a slow leak, over pressure, under pressure, excessive heat and a fast leak/blowout. The warnings are generally not audible unless it is a fast leak/blowout situation, then you get a visual and audible. I will see how the system works.
Joe