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Black water sewer question
06-14-2010, 09:19 PM
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looking for ideas. my rv black water connection is low to the ground, which hampers gravity feed if the campground connection is not flush to the ground. thinking of driving up on blocks to get some more clearance. any ideas?
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06-14-2010, 09:39 PM
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Check out SewerSolution . Other companies sell electric-powered sewer macerator pumps that would work even better, and cost more of course.
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06-14-2010, 11:03 PM
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I don't dump until I have at least a half tank of either black or grey. That seems to overcome the problem of dumps with raised pipes. Dump the black first then clean out the sewer line with the grey water. What is left of the grey in the sewer line is left on the ground as a gift to the bad installation of the parks sewer dump.
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06-15-2010, 03:35 PM
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Chuck I once asked a CG owner about the raised sewer pipe, voicing the same concerns. He said it was a requirement of the local water board, I've forgotten the reasoning he related.
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06-15-2010, 06:49 PM
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Ray, that sounds about right. I was told that an RV sewer hose could not contact the ground in Arizona. I'm not sure if that is true but it wouldn't suprise me that the state wants to be more involved with my sxxx...,droppings.
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06-16-2010, 08:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray,IN
Check out SewerSolution . Other companies sell electric-powered sewer macerator pumps that would work even better, and cost more of course.
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Love my Sewer Solutions setup. Clean, neat, packs in small space.
Bob
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06-23-2010, 03:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck 1935
I don't dump until I have at least a half tank of either black or grey. That seems to overcome the problem of dumps with raised pipes. Dump the black first then clean out the sewer line with the grey water. What is left of the grey in the sewer line is left on the ground as a gift to the bad installation of the parks sewer dump.
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That is not the right thing to do, that is leaving sewage on the ground 
If black tank is low to the grond then you may need to check and see if it had been that way all the time. Maybe it has come loose and is now lower than normal, a couple of pipe hangers could fix that. But what ever you do don't polute and make it worse on the rest of us.
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06-23-2010, 08:45 AM
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Super Gewl, No one should ever dump raw sewage on the ground intentionaly. That is why I always dump the Black fist and rinse out the dump hose with the grey. By lifting the hose you then can get most if not all of the grey out. Ever notice how green it is around those dump pipes ? Hmmmm.
As for those macerator ejector pumps that have been mentioned. They are a good idea but really slow.
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06-23-2010, 09:37 AM
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Chuck 1935 you shouldn't dump the Grey tank water on the ground either because of the chemicals that we in the tanks. Yes I do see at some parks the grass is greener around the Dump pipe.
I like the olde fashion way of getting my hands dirty, I guess it's left over from my days on Submarines.
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06-23-2010, 09:42 AM
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I truly do not like the Sewer Solution.. I mean why spend gallons and gallons of our precious and rapidly dwindling FRESH WATER supply when you can buy a Macerator Pump such as the Sani-Con or the Flo-Jet and use a small amount of electricity to do the same job, only do it better.. The macerator pumps farther, faster, higher and does not gulp gallons of fresh water... Just a small amount to rinse it off when finished.
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06-23-2010, 11:08 AM
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Whooaa there wa8xmy, the last time I checked water was a renewable recource. Electricity, unless powerd by wind, uses non renewable energy. I think we are getting our shorts in a twist here. Another point is that in water drought areas they in fact, use grey water from homes to water, saving the fresh water for esentials. Macerator pump are great for specific jobs, but in no way are they faster than gravity draining water through a 3 inch hose. I do however agree with you that we need to be environmenally aware and do everything, within reason, to preserve our resources. Thank you for the reply. Good debate is healthy. Have a wonderful day and camp as often as you can. It's good for the soul.
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06-23-2010, 06:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wa8yxm
I truly do not like the Sewer Solution.. I mean why spend gallons and gallons of our precious and rapidly dwindling FRESH WATER supply when you can buy a Macerator Pump such as the Sani-Con or the Flo-Jet and use a small amount of electricity to do the same job, only do it better.. The macerator pumps farther, faster, higher and does not gulp gallons of fresh water... Just a small amount to rinse it off when finished.
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After owning and using both systems, I will stick to the Sewer Solution any day. No installation needed, no electricity needed, quick and easy to use. Yep, it is a bit slower, but who is in a hurry. As for the water used, you make it sound like we are emptying the reservoir to use it - - it does not use that much water - - it is only a small jet of water to make it work. Sure is nice and clean when done. How about the macerator???
Bob
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06-23-2010, 07:07 PM
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because of the chemicals that we in the tanks
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What chemicals?? We don't use no stinkin' chemicals !!
We too have sometimes had a problem with high sewer connections, especially when they are uphill from the RV site !! Most diesel pusher sit considerably lower than fivers due to the air suspension dropping before leveling. I have normally been able to make it work, though in one location I had to raise the jacks and air up the suspension before I could dump. That's the only time I've ever really been tempted to buy a macerator, but there wasn't any available place to get one when I needed it.
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06-24-2010, 06:55 PM
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If you're gonna keep the rig for a long time spend the money and "flip the axles" to give the rig a lift kit if it hasn't been done already. Solves other problems too.
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