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07-11-2014, 02:16 PM
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Electrical issue
I have a 98 fleetwood American Dream. I am having an issue with suddenly loosing 110 volt and 12 volt DC... I can open the cabinet door for the Breaker panel, slam it shut and all comes back on. I have checked all of my connections to make sure there tight and have found nothing. I even had the fleetwood techs at Decatur check but they could not replicate the problem. It is crazy it may go 2 days and never do it. Then all of a sudden it may do it every few minutes. Every time I want it looked at it is fine.
PLEASE HELP
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07-11-2014, 02:54 PM
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When you say all your electrical connections , I'm assuming you have opened up the panel and checked that the wire connections into the 110v circuit breakers are tight.
Could be it's time to shut down the 110 power and pull the main breaker right out and check the contacts on the back side. Can't rule out internal problems with the breaker either.
Having 12v go out at the same time , is a real puzzler , unless the converter/ charger/ inverter, is going into a delay or protect mode when the 110 acts up. 
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07-11-2014, 03:24 PM
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I had a similar problem but on a 240 volt disconnect switch on my house. The rivets that held together the buss connections were loose and ended up sparking and arching.
With the cover off try wiggling around all the circuit breakers to see if you can recreate the problem. Of course be careful about what you touch in there!!
Greg
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07-11-2014, 04:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by speedman42
I have a 98 fleetwood American Dream. I am having an issue with suddenly loosing 110 volt and 12 volt DC... I can open the cabinet door for the Breaker panel, slam it shut and all comes back on. I have checked all of my connections to make sure there tight and have found nothing. I even had the fleetwood techs at Decatur check but they could not replicate the problem. It is crazy it may go 2 days and never do it. Then all of a sudden it may do it every few minutes. Every time I want it looked at it is fine.
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Are you talking about the breaker box under the bed?
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07-11-2014, 06:10 PM
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How close is the transfer switch to the distribution panel? I bet it is close enough that the slamming of the cabinet door is reconnecting the transfer switch.
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07-11-2014, 06:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GlennLever
Are you talking about the breaker box under the bed?
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yes the breaker box under the bed.
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07-11-2014, 06:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RV Wizard
How close is the transfer switch to the distribution panel? I bet it is close enough that the slamming of the cabinet door is reconnecting the transfer switch.
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it is right next to it.. how do I fix it if this is it?
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07-11-2014, 07:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mahon1993
I had a similar problem but on a 240 volt disconnect switch on my house. The rivets that held together the buss connections were loose and ended up sparking and arching.
With the cover off try wiggling around all the circuit breakers to see if you can recreate the problem. Of course be careful about what you touch in there!!
Greg
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I like this idea, simple to check, just be sure no shore power, no generator, no inverter, and as a safety make sure both the chassis and the coach battery switches are off.
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Originally Posted by RV Wizard
How close is the transfer switch to the distribution panel? I bet it is close enough that the slamming of the cabinet door is reconnecting the transfer switch.
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I believe that my transfer switch (97 Dream) in in the compartment where the shore power line is stored. When I plug into shore power there is the sound of a heavy duty breaker closing in this compartment.
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Originally Posted by speedman42
yes the breaker box under the bed.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by speedman42
it is right next to it.. how do I fix it if this is it?
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Maybe they moved it?
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07-11-2014, 08:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by speedman42
it is right next to it.. how do I fix it if this is it?
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do I need a new transfer switch?
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07-11-2014, 09:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by speedman42
do I need a new transfer switch?
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Check the suggested loose connections first, It is free and fits the symptoms.
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07-12-2014, 12:58 PM
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07-12-2014, 02:36 PM
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Get a voltmeter and SNEAK UP ON IT!
When it is broken DO NOT BANG OR WIGGLE ANYTHING ANYWHERE!!!!!
Carefully measure voltages at diffetent points like chore cord and fuses
Also across connectors.
When you discover a connection with a voltage drop across it then turn off power and very carefully fix just the connection and retest.
You may just have a bad ground someplace.
Again go slow and take your time as these are the hardest to find and fix because most do not take their time to find actual issue.
Good luck!
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07-13-2014, 05:16 AM
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I see you have a PLM -50A next to the transfer switch. Does the power cord go through this first or after the transfer switch? This is a component to also at least check connections of but could be the culprit.
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07-13-2014, 07:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RV Wizard
I see you have a PLM -50A next to the transfer switch. Does the power cord go through this first or after the transfer switch? This is a component to also at least check connections of but could be the culprit.
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First, I am not the one having the problem.
Yes, the shore power cord goes through the PLM -50A first and then to the transfer switch.
What is a PLM -50A ?
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