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03-31-2013, 01:45 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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For Amish Cooling Unit Owners Only
Well I've finally, once and for all made the decision to have the Amish unit installed in my Norcold 1210IM.
I would like to hear from those who have done it and what your experience has been before placing my order later this week.
I have read many threads about why I should go residential, but I have decided to keep the propane option and go this route. So Amish only please.
Through all the reading here one thing I noticed is the instance of many to cite NotsoCold - NeverCold over and over again to the point I got tired of seeing it. Mine runs perfectly cold now so that has no bearing on my decision. It's the potential fire factor that motivates me.
I realize the Norcold has issues but so do many other brands, manufactures, engines, chassis, etc. I have never see them referred to by a clever, derogatory nickname whether the shoe fit or not. I will be taking the cure for this peeve a little later in the form of a nice glass of red wine or two with our Easter dinner. So thanks for humoring me.
Good, bad or indifferent, I would love to hear your Amish experience and have a thread that captures just that. It might help others and it may shore up my decision - which as I have stated - is made.
If you have an Amish story to tell, please do. If you don't feel like typing it a thumb and a yep will do nicely.
Thanks to all.
Steve
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03-31-2013, 01:53 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Well I'm not Amish.............I'm Hungarian. And Happy Easter to you too.
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03-31-2013, 01:55 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
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Did mine last summer.
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03-31-2013, 05:27 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Ford Super Duty Owner
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Pitched the No-Cold in the trash and installed an Amish cooling unit. Works like a champ so far. Pulls down faster and holds temp better. I don't know why No-cold does not just buy their cooling units from the Amish.
Ken
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03-31-2013, 05:35 PM
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Senior Member
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We installed our Amish cooling unit in our norcold last summer. works great. we couldn't be happier. relatively easy to install. The worst part of the job for the wife and i was sliding the Norcold back into its location.
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03-31-2013, 06:24 PM
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Senior Member
Freightliner Owners Club
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I did the conversion myself in late January. Slow job that requires matching all the wiring, building a platform to slide the unit out, taking out the old unit and installing the new unit with a careful job regarding the thermal mastic and expandable foam.
We are in the Florida Keys now and its been running great for a week and a half. Seems to actually be getting stronger as time goes on.
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04-01-2013, 10:47 AM
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Senior Member
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So only 4 people have done the Amish upgrade to their Norcold? I thought this would be full of replies by now. Maybe not as common as I thought.
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04-01-2013, 11:02 AM
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Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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We did the Amish CU at the factory with our 2006 Adventurer 38J last July. The process took about 4 hours from start to "cold". They added an extra cooling fan above and sealed up some "dead space" while at it.
While we saw some improvements in performance we also had some issues with it keeping cool enough during the worst of the heat. The freezer was never a problem but the refer was. We did a lot of things such as moving the thermistor and such but nothing seemed to really get it to work well. Even as cooler temps of the fall arrived we didn't see much improvement from over the summer temps except that we could dial it down from 6 - 5.
I believe the problem was not related to the CU but instead to the enclosure with too much dead air space. This reduces air flow over the coils. This installation manuals are available at Norcold refrigerators - download Norcold manuals
Refers in slide outs (ours was not) also need to have baffles properly installed and configured. Keep an eye out for that issue too.
Sorry, I'm not Amish but had to reply.
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04-01-2013, 11:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flaggship1
So only 4 people have done the Amish upgrade to their Norcold? I thought this would be full of replies by now. Maybe not as common as I thought.
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5 replies on a holiday week-end , give it a week, I'm sure you'll hear more.
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04-01-2013, 11:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip426
5 replies on a holiday week-end , give it a week, I'm sure you'll hear more.
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Thanks Skip426 - a little anxious - also meant to put "Install" in title but flubbed it with iPhone and couldn't edit it. So thought I'd bring it to the top of list with a little more clarity before asking admin to edit title. Thanks again.
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04-01-2013, 12:07 PM
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Administrator in Memoriam
Newmar Owners Club Retired Fire Service RVer's Spartan Chassis
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How's that for a title?
Quote:
Originally Posted by flaggship1
So thought I'd bring it to the top of list with a little more clarity before asking admin to edit title. Thanks again.
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04-01-2013, 12:15 PM
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How's that for a title?
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Only Awesome. Thanks!!
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04-01-2013, 04:51 PM
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Administrator in Memoriam
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As usual, there will be no charge for the assistance.
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04-01-2013, 05:18 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flaggship1
So only 4 people have done the Amish upgrade to their Norcold? I thought this would be full of replies by now. Maybe not as common as I thought.
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I did the Amish cooling unit installation in my Norcold 1200 back in July 0f 2011. So far the new cooling unit has worked flawlessly and I am happy with the results. Now with everyone retrofitting with a residential refrigerator, I might have gone that way had I known. But for the money I spent, I can't complain.
Here is a video I made of the process involved in installing the Amish unit.
Sammie
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