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03-17-2018, 08:32 AM
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Investigating upgrading to 4AGM batteries in class A gas coach
Hi,
My 2 Excide 6 volt 232mah batteries need replacing.
A Sams club about an hour away has 6 volt 190mah Agm batteries for 180$ each. At that price I am thinking of gettng two extra.
Problem is my battery tray under the entry steps only has room for two, also its a pain to access. There is a storage bay about 18 inches away from the battery, it is rotocast so not sure how much weight it will take.
I have a Trimetric with shunt and a pmw solar charge controller hooked up the batteries. The controller is for two 100w portable panels.
We have a propane fridge and barely use TV when dry camping. I do have a 400w psw inverter I hook to the house 12 volt receptacle if needs.
Any advice would be gratefully appreciated.
Thanks,
Stephen
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03-17-2018, 10:32 AM
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Forgot to ask do I need to add a vent if in a storage bay?
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03-17-2018, 10:48 AM
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Don't believe those sealed batteries need a vent...but couldn't hurt......I just googled that type of battery, but didn't see anything about venting......
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03-17-2018, 10:57 AM
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Don't believe those sealed batteries need a vent...but couldn't hurt
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I could put on on the side of the bay.
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03-17-2018, 11:03 AM
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AGM battery costs 2x as much as GC2 6v battery ($83 @ Costco) and AGM has 20% less AH capacity; What again is the reason for the change to AGM???
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03-17-2018, 11:03 AM
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My trailer has a lead type battery and uses a plastic vented box, being vented to the outside.......might use one of these type boxes is needed...somebody else will chime in that uses that type.....stay tuned!.....
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03-17-2018, 11:33 AM
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Quote:
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AGM battery costs 2x as much as GC2 6v battery ($83 @ Costco) and AGM has 20% less AH capacity; What again is the reason for the change to AGM???
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Lack of maintenance is the reason.
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03-17-2018, 11:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bob caldwell
My trailer has a lead type battery and uses a plastic vented box, being vented to the outside.......might use one of these type boxes is needed...somebody else will chime in that uses that type.....stay tuned!.....
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Thanks Bob,
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03-17-2018, 11:37 AM
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AGM or not, batteries require charging. As for maintenance,
https://www.rvupgradestore.com/RV-Ba...-p/55-8752.htm
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03-17-2018, 11:47 AM
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Looked at one before, no good for as cannot be used in winter as water will freeze. Rrmoing the batteries is a big job so cannot take them home. I am looking to drop in replacements and forget about them.
Thanks or your help.
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03-17-2018, 11:52 AM
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Stephen, Do you have an inverter/charger or a converter/charger to charge the batteries? An older single stage charger will boil the batteries dry if not closely monitored (How do I know that?). See if your setup includes a 3 stage charger. If not, think about replacing with new; https://www.progressivedyn.com/rv/power-converters/
Might be your charger, not lack of maintenance.
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03-17-2018, 11:55 AM
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Do you store your MH off-site? Do you keep it plugged in to shore power to keep the batteries charged or do you have solar? There is no 'drop in and forget' battery for a motorhome, they have to be kept charged up. Do you have a way to charge your batteries in storage?
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03-17-2018, 12:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cruzbill
Stephen, Do you have an inverter/charger or a converter/charger to charge the batteries? An older single stage charger will boil the batteries dry if not closely monitored (How do I know that?). See if your setup includes a 3 stage charger. If not, think about replacing with new; https://www.progressivedyn.com/rv/power-converters/
Might be your charger, not lack of maintenance.
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Hi Bill,
Its a convertor charger.
Coach is in a storage yard so will check next time.
I have never watered tge battrries in 20 months of ownership, not sure the previous owner did either.
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03-17-2018, 01:09 PM
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I added AGM in the basement of our last coach. Built a frame using perforated angle iron from Home Depot and suspended the frame from the steel frame members above the bin. I wouldn't trust any basement floor to hold batteries.
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