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01-14-2016, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by dabrooks
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Now I LIKE that!
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01-14-2016, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Sammie
I find it amusing that people are so concerned about a simple brass or plastic Y hose connection. If you only knew the makeup of all the underground water supply piping you would think twice about using domestic water supply sources at all.
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I DON'T use those sources for anything we consume! I have high-quality water filters in the MH and our house!
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01-16-2016, 04:12 PM
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I found one very similar to this at Tractor Supply today. It had a tag that says " This product contains chemicals that the state of California has found to cause cancer".
I wonder if those from ACE have that same warning?
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01-16-2016, 09:02 PM
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This dispels any concerns about lead leaching from brass fittings: Brass Alloys and Their Chemical Composition and Uses
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01-17-2016, 12:28 PM
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That's a LONG article! I scanned through it but didn't see the part that dispels any concerns about brass fittings. Could you be more specific?
Thanks!
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01-17-2016, 01:17 PM
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I think that the linked article proves nothing except that some brass alloys contain lead. So far I don't think anything is settled. My gut feel is that plastic wyes, etc may contain more toxic substances than brass unless they are formulated for potable water. Certainly the garden variety (and I mean garden literally) may contain toxic substances. Garden hoses specifically state 'not for drinking'.
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01-17-2016, 01:21 PM
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I am going to make a guess if one was to have their water tested after flowing through one of these fittings, lead levels would not even show up in the test results.
How about this problem with lead in the water Obama declares Flint water emergency as Sanders blames Michigan governor | US news | The Guardian
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01-18-2016, 09:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MSHappyCampers
That's a LONG article! I scanned through it but didn't see the part that dispels any concerns about brass fittings. Could you be more specific?
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Only two of the listed brass compositions include lead being added. None of the remaining brass compositions even mention lead. California defines "lead-free" as <0.25% lead
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01-18-2016, 10:08 AM
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There is an excellent chance that any brass has some amount of lead in it. It would be best to assume that any brass has some amount of lead, especially if one desires to avoid lead. The metals contents shown in the referenced chart are the major constituents of the brass product, and every brass producer might have small proprietary additions that might not be disclosed as the amounts are small.
"Lead free" brass is available for machining, but there are generally no rules in place about warning the end consumer about the lead content unless a country or other authority has a law about lead content and/or consumer warnings, like CA. The only brass that anyone could be reassured does not have a potentially dangerous amount of lead is the stuff certified for sale in CA in plumbing fixtures. Otherwise, if the lead content isn't disclosed, how would you know?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass#Lead_content
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01-19-2016, 09:06 AM
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01-19-2016, 09:51 AM
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Is the MSDS available in the plumbing section at Home Depot? Amazon? Your locally owned and operated True Value? The Mom and Pop store in Tinytown, USA?
Nope.
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01-24-2016, 01:40 PM
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I ended up getting this one and it looks like really good quality!
Robot Check
Can't figure how the link got that name!
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01-24-2016, 03:07 PM
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If you want to worry about health effects from lead leeching from a brass 3" long Y fitting on your RV water line, add your brass pressure control valve as a concern too.
Personally, I' not going to worry about it at all.......
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01-24-2016, 06:43 PM
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It seems that as we get better at measuring things we get more scared of tiny things.
We now can measure fractional parts per billion so yes we can see nasty stuff in our water but to consume any dose one may need to drink a truckload of water.
Do not forget that drinking Di - hydrogen monoxide will certainly kill you as well not drinking it.
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