RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > RV SYSTEMS AND TECHNOLOGIES FORUMS > RV Systems & Appliances
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 04-11-2009, 01:06 PM   #1
Member
 
DumOleBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 88
Norcold Junk Refrig

Just learned we have to replace the cooling unit in our NORCOLD refrigerator – for a tad less than a thousand dollars!

It is just now starting its fourth year of use, six or ten times a year. It has never been turned on unless level.

My assumption is in all the world of RV "less than well-made junk" NORCOLD may be the leader. I had thought RVs were being made a little better than back in the 1980’s but evidently not.

Yes, I am mad!!!
__________________

DumOleBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 04-11-2009, 01:38 PM   #2
Community Moderator
 
"007"'s Avatar


 
Nor'easters Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 29,651
Welcome Bob to irv2, sorry it can't be a happy one right now.
Before you change anything and who decided to change cooling unit?
Which Norcold model is it and what is the problem that you have been having.
What coach is it in also.
__________________

__________________
98KSCA, 99MACA, 03 KSCA-3740- 8.1 Chev-- ALLISON Trans
VISIT the NEWMAR QUICK TIPS & EASYMODS 1 & 2
QUICK TIPS # 3
RV SYSTEMS & APPLIANCES & RECALLS --- TECH INFORMATION
"007" is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2009, 03:24 PM   #3
Member
 
DumOleBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 88
If you can steer me in another direction I’d surely be grateful!

NORCOLD model N621. Trailer is a 23' Trail Blazer by Komfort.

Turned the refrigerator on for the first time since Nov 08 running on 120v. As normal it dropped to 8* freezer & 38* in the box. The unit was well within “level” and all looked a-ok.

We have not had any problem with this unit prior to this. I am very careful to have it level. There was a slight, peculiar odor when I opened the freezer. It was very indistinct and I couldn’t say it was ammonia, but I had not noticed it before. Frankly, I didn't become totally aware of it until I read ammonia oder might signify a leak.

Next day the freezer = 35*, cold box = 41*. I switched it over to propane. Next day both the freezer and the box were 41*. Back to 120v made no diff! Door was closed tight. OK looking burner flame. No obstructions to vent. Triple checked everything in the instruction book. Cancelled our trip!

Took it to the local RV service shop. They are the only one in town & I know people who feel satisfied with them, but they are a small operation servicing mostly snowmobiles & RVs. They tried the things I had and then some.

Just in case they “jumped” the 120v power directly to the cooling unit, thus circumventing the control panel and thermostat. Over night the box & freezer were both still at 41*.

The replacement unit is $480 + shipping, and they estimate the total charge to be $987.00

Any thoughts will be ACTED UPON!
DumOleBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2009, 04:04 PM   #4
Community Moderator
 
"007"'s Avatar


 
Nor'easters Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 29,651
From what you have described, ammonia smell, or yellow substance around coils it looks like its your cooling coils. The price seems reasonable at your shop.
I checked PPL Parts and their price was higher for your N621 cooling unit.
If RV Wizard has any comments think he will say the same.
__________________
98KSCA, 99MACA, 03 KSCA-3740- 8.1 Chev-- ALLISON Trans
VISIT the NEWMAR QUICK TIPS & EASYMODS 1 & 2
QUICK TIPS # 3
RV SYSTEMS & APPLIANCES & RECALLS --- TECH INFORMATION
"007" is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2009, 05:28 PM   #5
Community Moderator
 
RV Wizard's Avatar


 
Country Coach Owners Club
Appalachian Campers
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Chattanooga, Tn.
Posts: 12,063
Quote:
Originally Posted by DumOleBob View Post
If you can steer me in another direction I’d surely be grateful!

NORCOLD model N621. Trailer is a 23' Trail Blazer by Komfort.

Turned the refrigerator on for the first time since Nov 08 running on 120v. As normal it dropped to 8* freezer & 38* in the box. The unit was well within “level” and all looked a-ok.

We have not had any problem with this unit prior to this. I am very careful to have it level. There was a slight, peculiar odor when I opened the freezer. It was very indistinct and I couldn’t say it was ammonia, but I had not noticed it before. Frankly, I didn't become totally aware of it until I read ammonia oder might signify a leak.

Next day the freezer = 35*, cold box = 41*. I switched it over to propane. Next day both the freezer and the box were 41*. Back to 120v made no diff! Door was closed tight. OK looking burner flame. No obstructions to vent. Triple checked everything in the instruction book. Cancelled our trip!

Took it to the local RV service shop. They are the only one in town & I know people who feel satisfied with them, but they are a small operation servicing mostly snowmobiles & RVs. They tried the things I had and then some.

Just in case they “jumped” the 120v power directly to the cooling unit, thus circumventing the control panel and thermostat. Over night the box & freezer were both still at 41*.

The replacement unit is $480 + shipping, and they estimate the total charge to be $987.00

Any thoughts will be ACTED UPON!
When did you notice the odor; before you started the unit or after it started to fail? Have you checked the venting of the outside?
__________________
Mike, RVIA & RVSA Certified Master RV Technician
Amy, Dr. Assistant - Roxie & Mei Ling, four legs each
2000 Gulf Stream Scenic Cruiser 450 hp & 1330# torque
06 Saturn Vue, 06 Chevy Z71 4x4 & 2014 Corvette Z51 M7
RV Wizard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2009, 07:22 PM   #6
Member
 
DumOleBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 88
Noticed the slight odor after the unit had warmed. I did check the vent on the roof as did the serviceman, but did not remove the roof cover, as it seemed to be difficult to get off. So all we could do was to kind of run a hand under it.

Do you think I should investigate further under that cover?
DumOleBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2009, 03:23 AM   #7
Community Moderator
 
RV Wizard's Avatar


 
Country Coach Owners Club
Appalachian Campers
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Chattanooga, Tn.
Posts: 12,063
Use a mirror and flashlight at the bottom of the cooling unit to look up the vent. Make certain that something like a piece of bat insulation has not come loose and is blocking good air flow to remove the heat from the condenser. It is worth a look.
__________________
Mike, RVIA & RVSA Certified Master RV Technician
Amy, Dr. Assistant - Roxie & Mei Ling, four legs each
2000 Gulf Stream Scenic Cruiser 450 hp & 1330# torque
06 Saturn Vue, 06 Chevy Z71 4x4 & 2014 Corvette Z51 M7
RV Wizard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2009, 05:49 AM   #8
Member
 
Gasjarvi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Central NY
Posts: 53
Did you check the Norcold site for any recalls on your unit??
__________________
2003 Damon Challenger- Linda & Glen
Gasjarvi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2009, 11:16 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,368
Join the club
I'v replaced 5 refrigerators in the past 25 years both brands; for some reason the refrigerators in RVs just don't last.
melvonnar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2009, 12:20 PM   #10
Moderator Emeritus
 
TXiceman's Avatar


 
Vintage RV Owners Club
Texas Boomers Club
Oklahoma Boomers Club
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Full Time, TX Home Base
Posts: 17,426
Blog Entries: 21
I have a 30 year old Dometic RM100 that has just started to act up. I guess it is junk as well.

It seems like the older ammonia absorption units held up a lot better than the newer ones.

Ken
__________________
Amateur Radio Operator (KE5DFR)|Full-Time! - 2012 6.7L Ford Crew Cab Dually -2013 HitchHiker Champagne 38RLRSB - Travel with one Standard Schnauzer and one small Timneh African Gray Parrot
TXiceman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2009, 12:35 PM   #11
Member
 
DumOleBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 88
Great idea - Thanks!

Had to remove the roof vent cover to see and there was no obstruction. However there is the unministakable odor of AMONIA! So that’s it. At least I know the repair guys were correct. The beast is leaking!

Now, here is interesting food for thought and maybe even a lesson. After turning the refrigerator on and getting it to normal cold the outside temp went down to zero degrees two nights in a row. We still have 3’ of snow on the ground here in Yellowstone country. After that is when we noticed the box wasn’t as cold as it should have been.

So the question is: is it safe to run the refrigerator when it is VERY cold outside?
DumOleBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2009, 12:35 PM   #12
Member
 
DumOleBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 88
Yes, thanks for the idea!
DumOleBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2009, 12:36 PM   #13
Member
 
DumOleBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 88
Ah - how'd you like to sell that 30 year old!

I think. like so many things, they made them better back then!
DumOleBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2009, 12:37 PM   #14
Member
 
DumOleBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 88
Robert - How'd you like to start a "Refigerator Replacers" club? You'd sure be our Pres!
__________________

DumOleBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Norcold Refrig parts abray Monaco Owner's Forum 12 03-11-2008 04:44 PM
Norcold refrig Tom&Marie MH-General Discussions & Problems 7 04-05-2007 04:04 PM
Norcold not running well on AC, have link to Norcold service manual John_Canfield Winnebago Industries Owner's Forum 28 08-09-2006 03:49 PM
Norcold Refrig problem Ronald Smith MH-General Discussions & Problems 8 09-16-2005 05:25 PM
Norcold 1200lr burner insulation Jerry Wessel KA8MBK RV Systems & Appliances 3 04-29-2005 08:12 AM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:07 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.