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07-20-2018, 03:59 PM
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Power system is not making sense at all!
I have a 1994 Fleetwood Flair and we have just got the weirdest problem in electrical that just popped up. We're in Florida now and was running our A/C to cool it down after being in the shop for 7 weeks. The power tripped once during this process and I was able to reset it pretty easily at the breaker.
It later tripped again and I couldn't reset it. I'm getting power to the breaker and the converter is sending power to the dc distribution panel for the battery recharge. However, I seem to have line power from the breaker panel to the back of the fridge. At the fridge I don't have power for that outlet outside or the outlets inside.
I've traced the power loss to somewhere in the bedroom, even though the bathroom gfci is working. I first thought it could be the gfci, but that seems to be putting out power. My fridge was only operating on propane power, but everything else doesn't have any ac output.
So there is line power to a 1/3rd of the motorhome, but the power isn't actually enough to run anything. My a/c is off and fridge, so we can't stay in our RV. It really sucks and I'm trying to understand it all.
I hope this is enough information to get some troubleshooting help. I will check everything tomorrow (I've got a few things going tonight).
Thanks,
Sheldon
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07-20-2018, 04:12 PM
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The A/C is probably on it's own breaker. I'd replace that as a starter and see what happens.
If it just brings back the A/C then you will have to figure out whether you have two bad breakers or something else wrong. If you need help with that then post again.
If it does not bring back the A/C then check the wiring at the A/C to see if that was left as a loose connection that came apart.
Why was the unit in the shop? That may or may not have anything to do with it.
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07-20-2018, 05:12 PM
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i'd also check in your storsge bays for another GFCI outlet.
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07-20-2018, 08:43 PM
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Does your motorhome have a 50 amp service? Sounds like a bad connection somewhere. Check your outlets. It could be a bad connection there or in the panel.
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07-21-2018, 04:24 AM
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I'll have to really look at that breker harder. We just got a new engine put in.
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07-21-2018, 04:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rk911
i'd also check in your storsge bays for another GFCI outlet.
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That might be a possibiity.
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07-21-2018, 04:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hivoltage98
Does your motorhome have a 50 amp service? Sounds like a bad connection somewhere. Check your outlets. It could be a bad connection there or in the panel.
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I found one area i suspect has a loose connection i just cant reach it to check it more.
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07-21-2018, 04:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nothermark
The A/C is probably on it's own breaker. I'd replace that as a starter and see what happens.
If it just brings back the A/C then you will have to figure out whether you have two bad breakers or something else wrong. If you need help with that then post again.
If it does not bring back the A/C then check the wiring at the A/C to see if that was left as a loose connection that came apart.
Why was the unit in the shop? That may or may not have anything to do with it.
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It was getting a new engine. I'll check the items you brought up.
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07-21-2018, 06:47 AM
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Try running the generator. That will eliminate any shore power problems. Check the area around the engine in case a cable was damaged or not connected properly.
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07-22-2018, 12:56 AM
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Most AC Unit breakers are 20a; if you have another 20a (such as MWave?) swap them and see if AC works then; I wud prefer AC and then MW can wait on new part :-) ; if it trips the other breaker, you may have blown the capacitor on the roof
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07-22-2018, 01:15 AM
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and we have a GFCI on bottom of cabinet OVER sink, facing down?
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07-22-2018, 06:17 AM
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A new engine should not mess with the house AC distribution. Unless I saw some physical damage I would make that a low priority idea. A remodel would have me make it a high priority.
Not sure what running the generator would buy you unless you are getting low line voltage from the park you are in. It might be worth checking the voltage at a working socket when the A/C trips. If I was having a problem I would be looking for a line voltage monitor. YMMV.
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07-22-2018, 06:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeyondBoundariesRV
I have a 1994 Fleetwood Flair and we have just got the weirdest problem in electrical that just popped up. We're in Florida now and was running our A/C to cool it down after being in the shop for 7 weeks. The power tripped once during this process and I was able to reset it pretty easily at the breaker.
It later tripped again and I couldn't reset it. I'm getting power to the breaker and the converter is sending power to the dc distribution panel for the battery recharge. However, I seem to have line power from the breaker panel to the back of the fridge. At the fridge I don't have power for that outlet outside or the outlets inside.
I've traced the power loss to somewhere in the bedroom, even though the bathroom gfci is working. I first thought it could be the gfci, but that seems to be putting out power. My fridge was only operating on propane power, but everything else doesn't have any ac output.
So there is line power to a 1/3rd of the motorhome, but the power isn't actually enough to run anything. My a/c is off and fridge, so we can't stay in our RV. It really sucks and I'm trying to understand it all.
I hope this is enough information to get some troubleshooting help. I will check everything tomorrow (I've got a few things going tonight).
Thanks,
Sheldon
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OK, Electric troubleshooting 101. Sounds like you have two problems. What breaker tripped? Pedestal? 30 amp Main panel? 20 AC breaker?
Turn off every breaker then back on. Main, Shorepower, everyone.
Why couldn't you reset it?? Did you turn it off first then back on? Again which breaker.
The fridge problem is not connected to the AC problem. If 1/3 of the power is out it is most likely a GFI outlet. Kitchen counters working? Does the bathroom test and reset? The fridge should not be on a GFI but who knows. GFI'd protect all outlets within 6' of water. Inside and out. My 27' Wildcat has only 2 GFI. Some have two. Pull the GFI that is working and look for loose connections. Get back to us.
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07-22-2018, 08:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Soppy
Try running the generator. That will eliminate any shore power problems. Check the area around the engine in case a cable was damaged or not connected properly.
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I'll try that, thanks
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