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02-23-2016, 08:59 PM
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Residential refrigerator question about batteries
I have a new Fleetwood bounder 33c with a Samsung residential. Refrigerator. The brochure said it has a 2000 watt inverter and 2 additional batteries specifically for the refrigerator. The. Dealership. Said there are no additional batteries. I see the 2000 watt inverter but no batteries.. Do you know if this bounder has or is suppose to have extra batteries? Articles I have read about other r.v.s. usually have them . if so,where are they? Thanks! Lou
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02-23-2016, 09:20 PM
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You should have at least 5 batteries, 2 for the fridge inverter, 2 for house batteries and 1 for engine or chassis battery.
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02-23-2016, 09:43 PM
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My Bounder is still in manufacturing but I have seen the mention of two extra batteries in the 30th Anniversary Bounder brochure and not in the regular Brochure.
Perhaps, that since the household refrigerator became standard, the system was rewired to have only the two 6 volts batteries.
I would prefer having 4 6 volts batteries.
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02-23-2016, 09:59 PM
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I have the Samsung 197 and 4 (6v) batteries and a Magnum 2812 inverter. If you have just 2 (6v) batteries I would be looking at a min of 2 more batteries. Next year if I need batteries I will install 2 more because right now I can go around 8hrs +- before they get down to 12.2v and I have to start the gen-set.
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02-24-2016, 04:49 AM
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I just received the electrical diagrams for the 2016 36H Bounder, which also has the residential refrigerator. Those diagrams show four (4) house batteries wired for the system. If I recall they are located under the entry steps.
Bill
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02-24-2016, 05:00 AM
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If there are only 2 house batteries, See if they are big 8 D size.
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02-24-2016, 05:15 AM
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FWIW If they are under the entry steps then you will be hard pressed to get 8-D's in there. ;-)
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02-24-2016, 05:40 AM
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I know on my previous res fridge 5'er, the mfg only shipped with the minimum battery to get it delivered and it was up tot he dealer to put the batteries in...
It took 5 visits, many phone calls, threats to sue, and months to get the 3 WORKING batteries I was supposed to get ...
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02-24-2016, 10:02 AM
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Refrigerator batteries
I still do not know if the Bounder 33c residential refrigerator has 2 extra batteries specifically for frig and where they are or should be. How do I contact a Fleetwood technician . I want to know if the dealership was supposed to add them. I argued with them about this, but they said I only needed the 2000 watt inverter. This does not solve the power storage needed for residential refrigerator. Do you agree? Thanks , lou
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02-24-2016, 11:34 AM
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Write to Fleetwood and explain it clearly and they will contact your stupid dealer that did not do its job !
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02-24-2016, 02:26 PM
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Thanks Norman. I think dealer is playing mickey the dunce on me! If I find out they scammed me, Fleetwood is going to get a nasty Letter about them ! Thanks again norm. Lou
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02-27-2016, 10:07 AM
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I don't think it is the dealer's job to add batteries to the factory set-up. You get the equipment the factory provides and its the dealers task only to make sure it is working at delivery.
That said, you cannot rely on the sales brochures. They all say "Specifications can change without notice". For awhile the RV makers were using dedicated inverters for residential fridges and they had separate battery banks too. That proved unnecessary and was stopped a few years back. However, a coach with a residential fridge is usually equipped with more or larger batteries to handle the additional power draw of the larger inverter and fridge. I think four would be typical if they are the usual Group 27 12v or GC2 golf cart 6v.
According to the Bounder brochure, the residential fridge option includes two additional batteries (2 are standard) and the 2000W inverter. That is a total of 4 house batteries, plus another to start the engine (chassis battery). Since that is consistent with industry practices for residential fridges in RVs, I think you can make the case to Fleetwood that you have a reasonable expectation that yours would be provided that way.
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02-28-2016, 06:13 AM
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FWIW I Have seen setups with a residential fridge where they added the second battery and automatic generator start then called it sufficient. The industry either does not know or does not care what it takes to boon dock.
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