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09-30-2016, 02:40 PM
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Water heater help
I have a rig with no electric water heater. I have a new electrode that will fit.
Questions, there's two places to connect 110v to the electrode Is one +and one - ? Or how do u wire them
I'm gonna need a thermostat in there some where?
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09-30-2016, 03:04 PM
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What brand water heater? If its a Suburban, then adding an electric element is not a good idea as you would need to remove the anode rod which will shorten the life of the WH. If an Atwood, then you might look into a Hot Rod kit which includes everything you need to have both electric and gas. Also the Hot Rod is a low draw element which says its slower to heat, but has little impact on power.
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09-30-2016, 04:46 PM
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It is a suburban, it does not have eclectic capabilities now. Not sure what u mean by Anode Rod?
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09-30-2016, 05:33 PM
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Surburban water heaters have an anode rode which doubles as the drain plug. The rod part is used to keep the tank from corroding by attracting to it the minerals that cause the corrosion. With out the rod the tank will corrode much faster. You should have a manual for your wh which explains the operation and need for the anode, and explain what it is for.
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09-30-2016, 06:17 PM
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Used rig, not all books complete
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09-30-2016, 07:04 PM
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Why use electric LP is much more efficient
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09-30-2016, 07:46 PM
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09-30-2016, 07:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 12rvrepair
Why use electric LP is much more efficient
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True, but electric is free at most campsites.
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10-02-2016, 11:59 AM
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Electric might be free, but is always more quiet.
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10-02-2016, 12:33 PM
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120 VAC Electric heating elements do not usually have a polarity. The heater is isolated from the shell and polarity insensitive.
Find the manual for your water heater type. They are on line. The dual fuel will show a thermostat and how it is wired. Usually something like a snap switch with a clamp down arrangement. If you can buy the part and bracket it will save a lot of work. You also want another switch and pilot light so you can control whether or not the heater is enabled.
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10-02-2016, 01:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burgiebill
I have a rig with no electric water heater. I have a new electrode that will fit.
Questions, there's two places to connect 110v to the electrode Is one +and one - ? Or how do u wire them
I'm gonna need a thermostat in there some where?
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Where did you get this electrode....what size is it (thread and length).....what is it's wattage?
You will need an ON/OFF switch (120V AC)
You will need a Hi/Lo thermostat set (wired in after on/off switch and in contact with WH Tank wall to sense water temp)
You will need an 'anode rod' to protect your Suburban Steel tank that is glass-lined from corrosion/rusting out
Course you could buy the KIT vs trying to assemble parts
Hott Rod and Lightening Rod are 2 of the aftermarket kits and one has a combo heat element with anode rod.
They are low wattage because of their size (having to go thru drain hole vs LARGER opening on a OEM tank that has electric option --- 450-625W vs 1400W)
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10-02-2016, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by wildtoad
True, but electric is free at most campsites.
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Free? Not really. You are paying for a full hook up so it isn't really free.
In all fairness you should ask the owner or manager if they allow the use of electric water heaters. The same goes for air conditioners. Some older campgrounds don't have wiring large enough to handle the requirements of all the units there's demands.
You don't want to be "that guy" who trips a breaker in the middle of the night just trying to save a few pennies on propane.
If we want the campground owners to respect us we need to respect them.
Lynn
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10-02-2016, 02:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LETMGROW
Free? Not really. You are paying for a full hook up so it isn't really free.
In all fairness you should ask the owner or manager if they allow the use of electric water heaters. The same goes for air conditioners. Some older campgrounds don't have wiring large enough to handle the requirements of all the units there's demands.
You don't want to be "that guy" who trips a breaker in the middle of the night just trying to save a few pennies on propane.
If we want the campground owners to respect us we need to respect them.
Lynn
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YEP......electric site (and water and or sewer) I am PAYING for that site at the rate determined by the CG Owner.
I will therefore use all available energy that I have paid for.
Be it 50A (12,000W) or 30A (3600W)
I respect CG owner and will not abuse or intentionally damage any of their equipment/property but I don't need their expressed permission to use what I have paid for...they gave me permission when they charged me for the site ---utilities included
My 5th wheel is 50A and I do manage my electrical demands if I am on a 30A source......but I will use up those 3600W
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10-02-2016, 02:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LETMGROW
Free? Not really. You are paying for a full hook up so it isn't really free.
In all fairness you should ask the owner or manager if they allow the use of electric water heaters. The same goes for air conditioners. Some older campgrounds don't have wiring large enough to handle the requirements of all the units there's demands.
You don't want to be "that guy" who trips a breaker in the middle of the night just trying to save a few pennies on propane.
If we want the campground owners to respect us we need to respect them.
Lynn
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Sorry to go off topic but i've never heard of this. If i pay for 30 amp electric service, then i expect to be able to use up to that 30 amps. Now, if i had no choice and knew the service was inadequate, then i'd be more careful what appliances i used.
I installed the Hot Rod on my 6 gallon Suburban about 12 years ago. I've drained the tank a few times and have seen no indication of a problem. As far as it saving any money, i doubt i've recouped the initial cost of the Rod. But it is nice having because of it's reliability versus the little problems many of the LPG units seem to have.
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